Was this wrong ?

Hi all , playing a 22$ mtt..AJs in the BB, blinds 400/800 , all fold to Villain (was running 32/22/3/8 over 200 hands or so) he was the big stack (covered me 4-5x over ~21k) and in the CO , raises to 2.5xx , I RR 3x his bet and he shoves.. I thought about for a few seconds and I called.
He had been slighty pushing the table around with his stack, only saw him get way out of line 1 time in the 40 hands or so played in this session.

Was I wrong to call this ?

Thanks for your feedback
DS

how many chips do you have?

If he seemed like a big bully I would of called....lotta factors though are you close to the bubble....if so prob even more of a reason to call if he's being overly agressive. I mean generally though even if he is bluffing ie has like 67s or some moderate to low hand...he isn't sitting that horrible against your AJ....The real question is are you willing to risk tourney life on what is probably going to turn out to be around a flip....since you said he was only being slightly agressive I would fold in this situation. Question what did he end up having? my guess is small pocket pair.

it sounds like you were on the short side with rought 5K. If this is the case then I say it is the right play. Shove preflop though instead of 3x raising. (assuming you are short)

Sorry, yes I was just a bit under 5k in chips. Ok, I didnt know if I should have shoved pre... The good part was he turned over a pair of 3s and I caught a J on the turn, but I honestly expected him to have a higher pair or AQ/AK.. definately but not 3s.. good luck for me in that hand.
Turning this around, if I had the 3s and the short stack shoves on me (being the large stack) is it a call for my small PPs ? Again lets assume that the villain views me about the same as I view him, fairly solid not getting out of line , etc.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Am I missing something? Villain bets 2.5x, which is 2000. You pop it to 3x his bet, so 6000. How do you do that with a 5k stack?

It would be helpful if you'd post a full HH so questions like this don't come up. I'm guessing you had 11k at the start of the hand. If so, I'd shove instead of 3xing it. I'm not folding if he shoves since that would leave me with only 5k / 6BB, so I might as well stick it all in right away.

He was running 32/22, so he is raising more than a fifth of the hands he sees. So he is either a really weak player, or he is bullying the table. either way AJs is way ahead of his range. Plus put him in LP and he probably opens his range up a little bit.

As for calling an all in as a large stack with small PP's, I say it is really situation dependent. If you make a raise, as he did, and there is an all in that is not going to cost you much more (I.E. a short), then yes you should call. You should also be looking at pot odds to see if it is right or not. With the small PP's, I assume you would be 50/50 most of the time, so if to call the short stacks all in (and I want to emphasize short stack) is less than is already in the pot then you should call. this is of course not all you want to look at though. you need to take into account position, players behind/ already in the pot, and how much of your stack you would need to commit.

Arj and everyone .. my apologies for the confusion. blinds were 200/400 at the time this occured. His open was 1050, my raise was to 2700.. then he shoved and I called.. etc.
Again, my apologies for the confusion.

If your stack was 5k then shoving his raise is better than raise-calling.

With 12BB, I'm basically shoving any time I enter an opened pot. There might be exceptions, but the circumstances would be very unusual and highly player-specific, so much so that I don't even have an example off the top of my head.

Popping it to 2700 takes more than half your stack and leaves you with less than 6BB behind. If he shoves, it will cost your remaining 2300 or so into a pot of 6250, so about 2.7 to 1 pot odds. Mathematically, it's correct to call unless you can put him on an extremely narrow range, maybe 1-2% which is like AA KK and *maybe* QQ and/or AK.

So in practice, you should call rather than fold and cripple yourself, and since you should call a shove, you should get in there first to give yourself as much fold equity as possible.

YAh pushing would of been the right move, but you accomplished the same thing just by calling in this case. I said early I would fold, but honestly would of been a shove getting that low on chips.
How did you end up doing in tourney after you won this hand?

I had read somewhere that if your going to make a raise that's going to take a 1/3+ your stack then the appropriate move is to push which I use alot and find it very effective.

You made the right move though.

If he had 21k and had you covered 4-5 times, thats assuming that you have 4k-5k left. with blinds @ 400/800. If he is being a bully then you might have the advantage (even if he had a weaker ace you could've had him dominated)...

If it was around bubble time and there were lower stacks at the table I might have folded, and hoped that they go out before you.

But if you raised (and assuming, with the little info you gave us, you probably put in around half of your chips) and he re-raised you all in, you kind of have to call. If you fold then, you will definitely be in trouble, as you probably will only have 3 to 5 BBs left

Honestly how does this ^ even matter?
I would actually assume he's NOT opening wider as you've suggested as he's raising into stack(s?) he's always calling off to. (unless SB is deep.. not sure why villain isn't open-shoving??? )
irregardless of this ^ ... HERO has like 7bb's ... it's a no-brainer get it in 100% (not sure why it's even posted tbh)