when u dont need to add on on rebuy tourney?

when u dont need to add on on rebuy ?
what are the precanteges ?
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Personally, the only way I don't add-on is if I have a very bit chip stack compared to the add-on amount. Other than that, I will add-on jus for the added chip advantage.

You should take the add-on in almost all cases. The only exceptions are:

1. You have taken a hit close to the end of the rebuy period and are severely short-stacked. Even were you to take the add-on, you would still be well down in the rankings and unlikely to cash.

2. At the other extreme, you are chipleader or close to it. The add-on is irrelevant to you, because it would make only a small percentage addition to your stack.

...or if its a freeroll where like 1% of the field gets paid.

Ive never taken an add-on. Well I usually stay away from tourneys with addons and rebuys.

How much does usually cost and how many chips do you get?

Obviously I know that exact numbers cant be given. But what about in relation to buy in's and the original chip stack.

+1

I usually allways add on unless stated above.
Plus I will try to bring 3 to 4 rebuys with me just in case stuff goes doown early on.
After that I usually dont even bother if it is to close to the add on anyway.

Completely agree with the above on when to add on. Also if there is a huge field i will tend not to do a rebuy or addon online i'm just content to say it wasnt my nice. Now live tourneys at casino small fields less than 50 i maybe rebuy twice and do addon. Also in online grtds i dont see reason to rebuy or addon if it doesnt add to purse.

+1

If you are severely short-stacked the add-on won't help, i have been there before. Your best bet is to just wait for the next MTT to start.

As it happens, I am playing in a rebuy tourney at this moment where the figures are as follows:

Starting stack - 1500 chips for $11.
Rebuy (available when at or below 1500) - 2500 chips for $10.
Add-on - 3000 chips for $10.

But these numbers can differ considerably from one site to another and (sometimes) from one buyin level to another at the same site. It is important to read carefully the structure for the particular game you are joining and to have it clear in your mind.

I personally will re-buy if allowed right at the start so i have double starting stack and then just play it like a freeze-out,i never add-on.

I wouldn't recommend this ^^ strategy (but hey.. if it works for ya.. great!). Rebuy tourneys have a strategy all their own. If you're not familiar with them but are considering playing them I'd suggest reading up on them.. &/or watching a training vid. of rebuy play.
Prior to gaining a better understanding of rebuy tourney strategy, I might've liked WONEGA's approach but after researching it a bit, I wouldn't advise it at all.
Rebuys are really about the tournament that starts after the rebuy period ends - - it's basically a deepstacked tourney favouring better players who are adept at deepstack MTT play. You will see some guys who appear to be complete maniacs during the rebuy period but for alot of them there is a means to their madness.... but then again there are a bunch of spew donks in there too.. lol.

'Generally speaking'.. it is suggested that when you consider a rebuy, think of it as being a higher buyin than what is stated (ie.,.. if it's a $10 rebuy, think of it like playing a ~$50 freezeout).

To learn more about your particular question, just open up any rebuy tourney lobby, then click on where it gives you details about the tournament (ie. 'blind levels', 'payout structure', etc.)... the details about the rebuy & addon will be in there.

I tend not to play in these as they tend to last forever with the re-buy and addon, it easily adds an hour or 2

never thought of it the way you put it, poker orifice, that's a pretty good point. still not a big fan of these things. but if you're rolled for them and think of them in terms of how much you're willing to consider it costing...then if you have a really nice run in one, i can see how someone might think of it as a tourney they got to play "on sale"

i personaly dont play rebuys or r1=a1 or whatever..
but when i do i rebuy when i start and thats all..
unless it cheap ..
add on i always do unless add on less then 50% of my chips

I just can't see playing a rebuy and not adding on. It gives you 20+ bb most of the time and if you have like 20-30 bb at the end of the rebuy period that is going to give you a very workable chip stack. You can do a whole lot more with 40 or 50 bb than 20 bb. Even if I have 100 bb I would still addon. It is all about giving yourself the best chance to win and chips help your chances a lot when blinds start going up.

Either I have had one drink too many or that makes very little sense.

You don`t play rebuys except when you do, and you only rebuy at the start except when you do so at other times.

I tend to agree with most of what has been said.

However, the point about chip leader needs to be tweaked a bit.

If you have a hugestack compared to 2nd place then I would say the addon is not really something you need to do.

But if you are chipleader and there are others stacks nipping at you heels you would be better off taking the addon no matter how small it is at that time.

Rest assured that one or more of those other stacks is gonna add on when the time comes.

It might be the difference between watching from the sidelines if you lose a big pot or still having a chip and a chair.

Less extreme it might be that extra few blinds that will keep you from having to go into fold/shove mode if you lose a big pot and get short stacked.

Mostly you want the addon because many players take it to give them more cushion for later in the tourney, which is not a bad thing.

As far as the rebuy is concerned.

If you lose a big pot but think your are a better player than you competition at the table you really should at least rebuy one more time.

If you think you are being outmatched maybe you should consider moving on to the next tourney when you might have a better advantage against the other players at the table.

I take your point.

The deciding factor, which will depend on the situation, will be whether you calculate that the expenditure on the addon increases your winning expectation to at least the same degree.

When the rebuy period ends, you are effectively at the beginning of a deepstack tournament. I tend to the view that an increase of (say)
ten per cent in your stack for the expenditure of (typically) twenty or twenty-five per cent extra (as compared with the money you have already spent) is a poor investment and unlikely to show a long-term profit over many such games (although I agree that it may do so in some instances).

It is a difficult calculation, though, with many variables which are difficult to quantify.

Good points, all.

I don't play a rebuy unless I am ready to take 2-3 rebuys and the add-on. So I am thinking along the same lines as PokerOrifice -- 5xoriginal buy-in is what I expect the tourney to cost. What actually happens depends. I may stack up early, and then again and have no need to rebuy. Aside from the tourneys where one starts short-stacked, I don't make a rebuy at the start. I fully expect to double up on my own.

I almost always take the add-on. Like Egon, I wouldn't bother if I am severely short-stacked (and have used all my rebuys), or if my chip lead is so huge the add-on will not matter. Typically, the add-on will keep me in the middle of the pack, which is where I aim to be as the tourney gets going in earnest.

The re-buy period is not the tourney proper, IMO -- it's a jockeying period where it's possible to stack up on the backs of the poorer (yet monetarily richer) players. It's where the possible winnings increase like crazy, and most of the people who contribute to the pot are gone well before the money. Nice. Not that I'm so good...I just play pretty tight in that early stage to take advantage of the loose play. Sometimes that works out very well.

I typically do not do a rebuy unless it is very early in the tournament so there is only a couple of players that have doubled up or better due to some all ins (which probably included my chips and that is why I am out). Later in the tournament, even your rebuy still leaves you significantly behind the big stacks that are likely to get your chips anyway. The old chip and a chair philosophy is good so long as you are not having to pay for those chips! Use the rebuy to buy into another new tournament where the chips are all starting out equal with everyone elses stack. As for the plus up, it is worth doing if it will truly get you into a postiion to improve your winnings. If you are severly low stacked at the break, and everyone else has 5 x the chips that your rebuy is gonna get you, the odds are that these are just better players and you are gonna lose that rebuy anyway