When to do a Stop and Go

I have been thinking about the right situations to do a stop & go. Should you use this technique on a particular type of player? Such as LAG? What hand ranges should you have? What hand ranges should your opponent have. What stack size is best to perform this move? Is it better to be the short stack or the big stack against your Vilian?

Its a short stack move. You should mainly use it against LAGs and weak tight players who fold every whiffed flop. Don't use it on fish and stations. Also can use it on TAG if you have more than about a quarter of their stack. Don't do it against big stacks because if they know its a stop and go they call abit light since you won't damage their stack much.

By doing a stop and go, you are representing a premium hand. You just flat call preflop and sends a message to your opponent you want action. LAGs generally won't have a strong enough hand to call it on the flop, weak tight is weak tight, TAGs sometime have a hand but don't have one most of the time.

Villain will flop a pair 1/3 of the time and for TAGs the pair is usually good enough to call you so it'll work around 2/3 of the time. For LAGs, if they were raising with like suited connectors or Ace rag its tough to make a call here with a bottom/medium pair. So they can only call about 1/6 of the time on flop most of the time when they pair their high card. Even then they can't comfortably call unless they know what you're doing because they have a weak kicker.

You do it against stacks you can do reasonable damage against or even cripple them. Its super effective against them. As shown above your success rate against TAGs should be around 66% unless they are hero calling you light. If you target the right stacks they're not hero calling you because you'll cripple them or bring them down to smallish stack if they're wrong.

Also do it if its against only one opponent. If you do it against more than one, the success rate drops since its more likely one of them has a hand and you won't be able to get both to fold.

The main thought / idea behind using the stop n go play is simply that you don't want to fold your hand preflop but you don't have any fold equity... since you have a hand like say, JTss or QTss, something like that, and you know your opponent is opening a wide range of hands in late position but if you reshove over his raise he is still priced in to call you, its possible you are better off just calling preflop and shoving all in on any flop as its likely to not have hit him and also its likely he was just stealing with a marginal hand...

Good example

Late position player raises with 33 and you are in the big blind with 8 or 9 big blinds... Late position player made it 2.5x... You look down at JTss... if you reshove he is pretty much pot committed to call you with any two cards... If this is the scenario you are just coinflipping for your tournament life... Why not if you know he HAS to call because he's priced in, why not call and see a flop like A Q 7 and just shove into him and make him fold and pick up what's in the middle... sure he will call sometimes, but it's better to do this selectively against an opponent who is either passive postflop or against a player that opens very loosely in late positon

Ah yes. I forgot to mention we do it because of low fold equity preflop since they will be priced in to call with almost any two cards since we're so short but if we do it on the flop, they most likely don't have the equity to call us unless they have a real hand and they hit.

tohos said:

Ah yes. I forgot to mention we do it because of low fold equity preflop since they will be priced in to call with almost any two cards since we're so short but if we do it on the flop, they most likely don't have the equity to call us unless they have a real hand and they hit.

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I agree with the comments so far, try to minimize the number of players involves, less chances of running into a Maverick who will call you with almost anything, and its always harder to call when you see cards that are overs, and you don't believe the guy/girl on the other side will have put their trny on the line shoving into a flop with nothing

It's useful any time you have the nuts, and you don't want to loose the villain.

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I think the previous posters would benefit from watching Negranus tutorial on exactly what a stop and go is.