| This is a discussion on What do these stats say? within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; Just looking for a quick analysis - any leaks jump out for you on this? Yes, I know, small sample, but it is all available ... |
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| What do these stats say? Finding Leaks Just looking for a quick analysis - any leaks jump out for you on this? Yes, I know, small sample, but it is all available that is reflective of a recent paradigm shift in playing the Pokerstars 45-man MTT SnG. What does mthis tell you about this guy's play? Thanks! ![]() Last edited by MediaBLITZ : 5th February 2011 at 9:47 PM. |
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1) First time I've ever asked anyone about stats. 2) For many players, poker is a continuous line of decisions based on statistics. 3) I am definiely not a math or stats guy - I feel it is an area of the game I need to get better in and was under the impression that these forums were partially in existence to meet that need for players interested in bettering themselves (without mock or ridicule). If you have empirical evidence that explains why these statistics are meaningless or a waste of time then please share. 4) If you are just being a smart ass then : ROTFLMFAO YOU ARE TOO FUNNY!!!! Last edited by MediaBLITZ : 5th February 2011 at 10:42 PM. |
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| re: What do these stats say? poker Doesn't tell us much, it's a small sample, not much can be derived. You might be playing a little tight in the mid-end game, and you are probably limping/calling too much. You can filter down stats with your PT3 (unless the programs too useless to even do that) and check for late game spots like shoving all in and what not, they are more relevant. Like a 40% shoving rate with under 10BB's is way to low, for example. |
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| Just in support of the OP, I find this all quite fascinating. I don't use extra software, but the idea that 60ish% folding on the flop is too high, is something maybe I should think about. How far off is it from the desired number? Are we looking for 50%, or less? Are there "perfect" stats out there that we should be considering striving toward? I know it depends on the game, etc., but just the fact that people I am playing against are thinking about these kind of numbers kind of freaks me out. Of course, if I can get 'em on a B&M table, I would have to think I have the advantage... no? |
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| Really good question Shufflin - where should these stats fall? And even which stats are of a more critical nature. My stat experience currently begins and ends with: A) A previous "coach" told me if my VPiP got above 20 I needed to seriously look at what I was doing. He went on to specify somewhere between 10 and 15. B) Other than that the only thing I have used stats for (outside of basic HUD use) was when I discovered I was losing a lot of money on A-J by just happening to scroll some PT3 screen while trying to figure it out. That told me real quick I had to be overvaluing it and am quicker to lay it down now than before and it is now showing +. I'm pretty new to PT3 but I gotta figure all these stats have some sort of value for dissecting and improving your game. It seems that some leaks would just jump off the page in there. Maybe what I posted was too basic? Don't know. So I guess it is pretty well agreed a VPiP for a TAG player is somewhere between 8 and 18 (give or take) - what should the fold to flop bet run? I can see where that number being high indicates I am coming in with weak hands and limping and such to see the flop, but I think my VPiP kind of contradicts that (or does it?). Last edited by MediaBLITZ : 6th February 2011 at 12:20 AM. |
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If you want a serious answer, reviewing and tweaking your stats in certain areas is a good thing, but as Wizzim said, general stats usually will not give you an idea of leaks unless they are glaring you in the face. Filtering down certain spots and situations will help you pinpoint leaks far more then a general overview. If I offended you, I apologize. Quote:
If you are multi-tabling then I can see how this stat would be that high, as you are playing overall odds rather than specific situations and using volume to make up for any small leaks. If you are only single tabling though, then one would have more of a handle on the situation and this stat could possibly be lower. But again, each player has a style that works for them. So while there may be a "mathematically correct" way to play and model your stats after (I, personally, know of no such way, but am willing to hear one), this does not necessarily mean that this will be a good way for you. |
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Thank you for the apology. I also apologize. And thank you for your help. OMG, I just realized how serious I am about my poker. You can kick my dog and slap my wife (please) but DO NOT make fun of my poker game! Anyway, I am just trying to get a handle on discovering my own leaks so I don't have to continually pay another guy to do it (although I just sent a bunch of hand histories to a coach). |
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