Basic Micro SnG tourney's to add to your BR and move to the next level. Mainly a Cash and Go for me. Will add a few MTT tourneys also. Still working out some details so stay tuned and please comment.



http://www.screencast.com/users/NEWT...6-347caf92c3c7

Who or what is eady?

Gonna have to take some time to watch these soon.

Originally Posted by TheKAAHK

Who or what is eady?

Gonna have to take some time to watch these soon.

Eady is the new Easy!!! lol Nah it's a typo, was chatting with a buddy and we call him Lil Eady. lol Now where's a Mod when ya need one!

And another one for your viewing.
http://www.screencast.com/t/SNugaCHj9Z

Originally Posted by NEWTDOG101

Basic Micro SnG tourney's to add to your BR and move to the next level. Mainly a Cash and Go for me. Will add a few MTT tourneys also. Still working out some details so stay tuned and please comment.



http://www.screencast.com/users/NEWT...6-347caf92c3c7

Once blinds are getting higher, we should just be open-shoving (not min-raising). We're also likely to get called wider for when we do get a bunch of monster hands (like in this vid.). When re-raising a limper (or min-raise), don't min raise (or click raise) them back.. just ship it!
The one hand where you mentioned "call here if folded too" with K5o (< I think it was)... don't 'call' here... Just SHIP IT!
On the bubble when SS utg folds with 1-2bb (I think it was 1bb?) & it's folded to you in SB (I believe you had 87o there in SB).. think about shoving here too (a bit villain dependent but if you think they've got half a clue.. then shove ALLIN here because they can't call you here unless they have a monster (ICM considerations) because SS is allin in BB next hand. When I suggest 'villain dependant' here, basically meaning > if you think guy in BB is ICM knowledgeable then you're looking to take advantage of table dynamics on the bubble & get it in.

Do you have Skype?
If you want to? .. you can pm me & can hookup on Skype & will share screen with you & will give commentary while playing. I'm not playing all that often these days but at times when I am playing I'll have 5-8 tourneys running & would be happy to do this if you're interested.

Cool vids. btw. Wish I knew how to do this.

Originally Posted by Poker Orifice

Once blinds are getting higher, we should just be open-shoving (not min-raising). We're also likely to get called wider for when we do get a bunch of monster hands (like in this vid.). When re-raising a limper (or min-raise), don't min raise (or click raise) them back.. just ship it!
The one hand where you mentioned "call here if folded too" with K5o (< I think it was)... don't 'call' here... Just SHIP IT!
On the bubble when SS utg folds with 1-2bb (I think it was 1bb?) & it's folded to you in SB (I believe you had 87o there in SB).. think about shoving here too (a bit villain dependent but if you think they've got half a clue.. then shove ALLIN here because they can't call you here unless they have a monster (ICM considerations) because SS is allin in BB next hand. When I suggest 'villain dependant' here, basically meaning > if you think guy in BB is ICM knowledgeable then you're looking to take advantage of table dynamics on the bubble & get it in.

Do you have Skype?
If you want to? .. you can pm me & can hookup on Skype & will share screen with you & will give commentary while playing. I'm not playing all that often these days but at times when I am playing I'll have 5-8 tourneys running & would be happy to do this if you're interested.

Cool vids. btw. Wish I knew how to do this.

Thanks for the guidance PO. Just what I'm looking for. Soon as I get my Skype going I will hit you up. I was thinking that same thing in that 87o hand in SB, I knew that was the right move and just neglected to do it. Thanks Sir!

Ok so PO where are you? Seems you are the only one who gives me feedback, is my play that good or is it just know one cares?! lol Here is another video for review, Thanks for watching and hope you comment.
http://www.screencast.com/t/2nXUYDlX

00:37 K7o otb 4limpers > FOLD pre
03:20 I prob rs 2.5x, limping is ok at this level though, because you have alot of weak players & calling stations & they're not likely to be able to handread well enough to realize that if you play the hand strongly postflop there's a good chance you've hit a set (< because it'd make sense of your range in that spot.. seeing as you've only limped)
Leading out for 'min' seems ok... not a 'donkbet' because you were utg openlimper. I'd probably cbet 1/2 -2/3 pot (but the 'minbet' seemed to have worked). I also wouldn't reraise them over their big raise because it looks wayyyy too strong (unless they're an idiot & are willing to get it in with a Jack here... which they obviously are.. but vs. someone who's thinking I'd prob just 'call')
03:40 utg limps, UTg1 rs 3x... I'm typically folding A3s in BB here (& any Ace lower than AQ) hate playing weak Aces OOP.. if suited I might call w ATs+
Turn I would bet out bigger than 2x (a 4th diamond on river will kill your action).. maybe bet out an amount that villain would be thinking > you're trying to steal the pot because of them checking back the flop (a small bet (to me) looks like a suckbet for value... 'please call me I have the nuts & am trying to build a pot).
　
03:50 T4o in SB.MP limps >... FOLD this hand ALL DAY LONG!
07:18 KTo in SB River - I don't think we're getting any weaker hands to call here (maybe JT?) on this board... I'd be more apt to check & hope to get to showdown cheaply. I'm guessing this is a defensive bet on the river?
(villain didn't seem like the type who'd bet wC2 with worse so I'd prob even c/F if they bet river wC2)
07:23 Q9o otb, UTG limps (UTG has been limping alot).. I'd just FOLD here pre
08:42 66 in SB Btn limps we raise 4x.... I'd likely just 'call' here... this is the same player who 'limped' with JJ otb couple orbits ago. Raising gets us to take down the pot right now but there's not much in the pot... if we get called, we're building up a pot that is going to put us in tough spots postflop while OOP (out of pos.). Blinds are still low (25/50) & we're OOP with a sm pp.. I'd just call here in this spot (esp. vs. this villain)
09:18 TT UTG.. we just raised '3x' utg1 with A8o... now we're raising '4x' with TT UTG. In lower buyins I typically not players who have a tendancy to raise 4x in some spots (when they're typically raising 3x usually)... this is OFTEN a hand like 99-JJ. I'd just stick to 3x in this spot. All of the loose,over-valuing spewy donks have already been KO'd from the table. The only one left who is loose is misterdjc & he's been more of a loose limping preflop fish.. but not much of a station pre (vs. a raise). The others have basically been tight/standard players (esp. 'peachesmama' who's hardly played a single hand). More 'notes' on players > 'fourstrong635' has also been tight & one thing to note on their play > raising small over limps (just 3x over limper).. & small 3bet with bigPP (the KK hand). 'lmd14u' has been passive preflop & fit-fold postflop.
09:24 66 in BB.. vs CO limp (the guy who's been the chronic limper). I'd probably just 'check' here, flop a monster & your hand is disguised. If I'm raising here though, I'm 4x'ing it.. because we're OOP here & will be tough to play this hand postflop. (I would 4x & then cbet most flops) (Here I'd cbet ~225...).
... something I've noticed > when u wiff you bet bigger... when u smash the flop you bet real small. (< this is exploitable to those who are paying attention)
09:40 K9s in SB... limp is ok 'but' vs this player (who's been uber-tight) I'd be more apt to just 'raise & take it' preflop. (I do this for a few reasons... a) cuz they've been uber-tight & when they've actually played a hand they've just made a huge rrai overbet & b) cuz if we've raised BvB vs them a few times, 'hopefully' the 3rd time we've got a freak'n monster & they finall play back vs. us with their rrai shove & we snap them off & KO them when our hand holds up) < that's 'the plan' anyways
09:46 98o otb, blinds have just gone up to 50/100, both players in blinds have stack sizes that shouldn't typically be 'calling' if we raise pre.. & with their tendancies (both are tight players, one is super tight) & with us being CL.. I would raise here to '225-250' in hopes of just putting pressure on them & stealing the blinds. ('if' I don't feel comfortable raising here (which I would do... again based on stuff said in '09:40'... then I would just Fold... but personally I would raise here all day long). With blinds now at 50/100 & the types of players left on table, my preflop raise size would now be standard at 225-250
09:54 A3s in CO, again I would 'raise' here preflop > 225-250
10:25 BvB K4o in SB... 'IF' you're going to 'limp'... I would go for a > Limp>Stab>Steal
'but' vs. this player I'd probably 'minraise' to 200. I Really Doubt they're gonna 'call' pre (cuz of how they've played all game so far) & are more apt.. to fold or rrai vs your raise.
10:57 77 in UTG1.. UTG with SS has limped w 10bb's... we raise to '300'. I'd probably raise to 350 here. As played, I'm not checking flop in hopes of 'check-raise' just because villain (fourstrong) hasn't really shown that he's betting wC2 (unlike some of the earlier players who were KO'd). We could possibly check this but I prob cbet 425.
11:23 94o in BB.. c/c/c turn '9'.. I probably just 'check' this too.
11:30 A5o in SB.. Tight (TAG) player (who's 2nd in chips) MinRaise in CO (prob his stand. preflop raise size at this level).... I would FOLD the A5o in SB here ALL DAY LONG! We're OOP!!! We don't want to be getting in pots with weak Aces...esp. while OOP (we flop our Ace here & then what?.. bet?.. & if called then what on turn?.. 'or' check/Call?... then what?. pay them off?). Just make the prudent play & 'FOLD PRE'
We call & flop BPTK on boar that could hit villain's range here... this is a steal I guess? (obv.?).. so basically we could've just called pre with something like 62o w intentions of donk-betting wetboards?
Just fold this junk preflop.
　
11:56 KK in HJ.. we raise '4x'. Just raise standard amount pre > I'd go with '250' here. You have tight players on your left who are more apt. to rrai over your raise. By raising 4x you're not giving them the impression of FoldEquity here & might even have them folding out hands they'd typically consider rrai here with (ie. 33-77,88), ATs, AJ, etc.
Raise to 250 & pray you get played back at. (& ~250 should just be our stnd. raise size).
~13:00 KQo in SB.. we Fold. This is fine (given the circumstances) 'but' I'd be way more apt. to play this hand then the A5o previously. (plays way better postflop than the A5o)
13:59 T4o in SB BvB.. we raise full 3x vs a tight SS. I don't think we need to 3x here. This time I'd actually prob just fold (but if this is a bubble ... the 'beginner' SNG's on Bodog have top5 getting paid don't they?.. I can see a raise but would just minRaise to '300' cuz I really doubt they're ever going to just 'call' here). When we raise full 3x we're never going to want to call when they rrai 'but' we'll actually be pricing ourselves in by doing this (we'd be getting 2.3 to 1 on the call here). Maybe if they're realizing this they won't play back at us?
I would've picked other spots earlier & relentless aggressed on their BB (with minraises or 2.5x) & probably more likely to just fold here. (maybe by limping earlier you're getting more credit here for having a real hand & 'if' villain realizes that you're priced in to call their shove..they'd be more apt to just fold here... it's just not how I'd typically go about it)
14:11 Q9s in CO, minRaise to '300'. < this is what I'd be doing in the other spots earlier too!! 'nh'
15:45'ish' The chronic Limper (misterdjc) limps AA & then shoves 6x pot wC2.. & shows his 'AA'. I'd probably add another note to his player > his 'wide' limping range also includes big hands in weird spots. (he's also been limping a ton & making plays at pots postflop often)
17:26 3left BvB w 54o.. 'FOLD' pre
we limp & then check-raise on 987 flop with ignorant end of a gutterball (even if we hit, we could be crushed). I don't bother with making a play at this pot in this spot vs. this villain who's been limping his big hands & when he bets 'POT' here on this board.
"Can We Play this different?" < yes, FOLD PRE (I wrote 'Fold Pre' (& all of my comments) prior to watching any of the hands play out.. none of the comments are based on what villain held, only their likely ranges).
I'm never even betting this river here (we're never going to get called by worse hands).

sorry if it's a bit difficult to read above post... I had written it on 'notepad' & then copy/pasted onto the forum. (didn't come out with the spacing?)

Originally Posted by NEWTDOG101

Ok so PO where are you? Seems you are the only one who gives me feedback, is my play that good or is it just know one cares?! lol Here is another video for review, Thanks for watching and hope you comment.
http://www.screencast.com/t/2nXUYDlX

I honestly wasn't sure of the intentions of this thread. I'll have a watch tonight and comment on if there are any glaring mistakes.

Ok so I now know where I wanna go with this thread. I would like to piggyback off of the Group Study Video Thread. Since they only cover Cash Games, this thread will be for STT & MTT tourney play. 30 min. session max. Micro to Low Stakes. All are welcome to post videos(links to ur video) of your tourney play for review. If anyone is interested just post here and PM me if you need help making a video.

come winter league I would love to post videos in this thread.

kind of goes against the whole, micro to low stakes, but the competition is pretty much the same to harder.

Originally Posted by prepare

come winter league I would love to post videos in this thread.

kind of goes against the whole, micro to low stakes, but the competition is pretty much the same to harder.

That's cool mate. Yes league play is pretty tough! I stated micro to low stakes only because I don't know many here who play Mid to High Stakes and who want a review but I welcome them if any care to share.

Originally Posted by NEWTDOG101

Ok so I now know where I wanna go with this thread. I would like to piggyback off of the Group Study Video Thread. Since they only cover Cash Games, this thread will be for STT & MTT tourney play. 30 min. session max. Micro to Low Stakes. All are welcome to post videos(links to ur video) of your tourney play for review. If anyone is interested just post here and PM me if you need help making a video.

I might post some vids. on here (probably longer than 30mins. though.. so maybe I make a part 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.?).
For sure I will need help putting a vid. together (been thinking of doing this for a couple years now but have never bothered to learn how.. read a thread about it recently but I tend to TILT when things don't go smoothly on the puter for me (< this is where I'm thinkin' a bit of help could go a long way).
Maybe we could hook up on Skype?
... also, no comments re: my review comments?

Originally Posted by NEWTDOG101

Ok so PO where are you? Seems you are the only one who gives me feedback, is my play that good or is it just know one cares?! lol Here is another video for review, Thanks for watching and hope you comment.
http://www.screencast.com/t/2nXUYDlX

I think i remember you from league games, i'm pretty sure you just played really tight, my username was "Ieatsfish" on stars.

Just going in order from when i see them.

K7off- why call? we have position, but our hand plays really badly postflop, I can see a call here with something like 87s or a pocket pair maybe but even then it's just not a great spot.

The flop call is just a bit silly to be honest waste of 80 chips so far.


AKs- flop bet is a little big considering the stack sizes remaining, it won't be hard to get the chips in regardless so just make it smaller like 1/3-1/4 pot and hope someone decides to go crazy. It's a pretty minor thing, wp hand here.

88- Limping is pretty much the standard here, you get too many loose calls pre-flop to make raising a viable option though it wouldn't be horrendous.
Not sure what the idea of the min-bet is, as PO said it might have seemed like it worked, but really, getting the money in this exact spot was inevitable. What you really want to be doing is building the pot, since it is multiway it makes it more likely someone has somehitng they may want to continue with, so bet like 1/2 pot or more because you usually expect stations in low level games, they usually won't do the raising for you(unless games have changed since i was playing them).

As played since he did raise you with players to act behind i'm usually just trying to get the money in then and there, don't want another card coming off and usually players who do this will be willin to get it in. In other spots, you may want to think about smooth calling, if you think the player may just be playing back at you with air.

A3s- Fold, you have a hand that plays really quite poorly, you are Out of position and a hand that is dominated usually by a huge chunk of the raisers range. Adding to that, the raisers range pre-flop is usually pretty strong, i don't expect much isolation raising in these games, especially from that position.

Ask yourself this, are you planning to fold when you hit your ace to his c-bet/action? Are you planning to call one street and fold to a turn bet? Do you think if this player had something like QQ you would get much action when you flop an ace?

I think this wouldn't be a bad time to try your little donk bet, hoping to get raised or someone just spaz out. However checking is probably standard, it looks super strong to just check/raise the flop here(even dumb players know check/raising is strong these days i would assume) so i like leading here sometimes and checking sometimes, stats and reads kind of dictates, like weak players who c-bet a lot we really want to be checking too, but weird dumbasses who spaz for no reason we probably want to be donking out a small amount and hope he takes the bait.

River bet is ok, can go bigger if we think he's a station(likely).

T4off- Dude, stop calling, if your bored start up another game or watch some TV or something, lol.


K6s- slightly better than the T4 call but still super marginal, best to just fold and load another table if your bored. However if you feel like calling, that flop is about as good as it gets to just lead at postflop. Since most players at this level like to see flops but give up once missed, it provides a really good opportunity to limp in pots you normally shouldn't/wouldn't as you can bet people out of pots a huge % of the time postflop. So if your calling here pre, look for dry flops or flops that are unlikely to hit ranges.... Like A 8 5 the only way someones is continuing is if the original limper (whos been limping a ton) limps a weak Ax hand or hit some funky gutshot (we're still ahead of most gutshots btw), but his range is presumably a lot wider than just that.

JJ- 4x is ok, but i think 150 is better in this spot, we kind of want the UTG limper to call we have two stacks who have position on us that really can't call ( button has shown to be a little tighter from observations) and the SB we don't really care if he calls as he will be out of position and he calls too much anyway.

It's not really a big deal, 4x is ok but also the stacks behind you and who has open limped plays a big role in how much you want to raise. I just feel it's just too big for the stacks in play, 100 he might just call, but 150 seems like a big raise.

KT- eh, calling is ok i suppose, but we really need to be able to bet flops and take it down postflop a bit. If you want to learn how to multitable it's by making folds like this one saving you precious thought process and time.

Erm flop bet is huge, doesn't really make a lot of sense considering the stack sizes, makes it hard for them to call. 80-100 would be fine. i'd likely fire the turn again, but much smaller(after flop bet of 80-100 pot is 300ish, betting around 120 as a kind of a blocking bet while still hopefully getting vlaue from the weaker parts of his range.)

Another line is to check the flop(or fold and save the effort/hassle of having to deal with these spots postflop) and hopefully get to showdown much cheaper, but it's kind of hard to know what to do when the BB or button bets out, i guess check/calling is an ok line, but just seems a little weak considering we have a strong hand on a draw heavy board in a limped pot. I think overall betting is better.

Q9off- fold of course, we have chips so it doesn't matter as much, but still fold. If you feel the need to play, come in for a raise, this guy calls way to much and probably folds to much postflop so considering he has a decent stack we can easily just put in a small raise, hope he calls and bet the flop.

66- i'd probably just call here, but it really doesn't have a lot to do with the hand, moreso that i figure we can just bet flops and get away with people folding to much postflop, we're also kind of set-mining. Not overly sure about this hand though.

A8off- it's fine if you think the table is tight (which it is) just don't go crazy once you hit Top pair, you generally want to pot control in those spots. Again not really raising because we have a weak ace, we should be raising because we have two tight players on our left who have position (and probably won't call much) and two looser players in the blinds who may call and we really don't care that much.

TT- Are we raising 4x because of our position, or because we have pocket 10's? i really don't think theres any need to raise so large now the blinds have gotten bigger in any case, but if you feel like players will call in these games regardless of bet size and you want more value, then i guess it might have a little merit, but yeah, just 3x or smaller for everything usually.


66 again- meh, he calls a lot preflop, so when we raise only to 150 we're just building a pot for a person who has no brains but has position, we have to respect position. Just check and take a flop, we can check/raise him on flops if you think he bets flops a lot, or we can simply bet somewhere postflop and probably take the pot down a lot.... oh and also we have 66, so our hand showsdown a decent amount of time too.

Ask yourself this, what do you do if he calls the flop bet? what then? do we check the turn showing weakness? do we bet again? it's a hard decision then on the turn right? we kind of want to avoid really hard decisions like that, especially if we're just starting out in STT's.

K9s- if we're limping this it's hopefully designed as a "limp and go". betting any flop half pot. But this is just such an easy flop bet, he never has an ace, and your K high is probably still the best hand.

But yeah, since i've noticed this guy is tight, just raise it pre-flop, and use the limp and go as a bit of a mixup play if you have raised the guy a lot before or if you have history.

Yeah it's a bit silly betting the turn now, just check and get to showdown i guess, like you missed your shot pre-flop and the flop, now by the turn after giving this guy so many chances to hit, he finally does, so just get in earlier and bet/raise sooner in the hand, if this guy missed his pair on the turn he just folds, so your pretty much just wasting time and asking to be sucked out on by waiting for the turn.

89off- button limp makes no sense, two guys in blinds are tight, i'd be raising pretty much anything vs nits in the blinds or at least anything pretty. 89s is fine to go ahead and raise, but yeah limping sucks.



That's all i have time to do sorry, i'll try to watch the rest of the video next week and maybe even post a session of my own. I haven't played poker in about 6 months so i'm sure to be super rusty.

Oh, nice post count btw PO

Originally Posted by WiZZiM

Oh, nice post count btw PO

Did you check out my 7,777th post? (I'll go find a link to it)

Here it is! (posted in Jurn8's 4,000th post thread)

Subscribing since PO and I intended doing this anyway (just too stuck in work atm - both of us).

Originally Posted by Poker Orifice

I might post some vids. on here (probably longer than 30mins. though.. so maybe I make a part 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.?).
For sure I will need help putting a vid. together (been thinking of doing this for a couple years now but have never bothered to learn how.. read a thread about it recently but I tend to TILT when things don't go smoothly on the puter for me (< this is where I'm thinkin' a bit of help could go a long way).
Maybe we could hook up on Skype?
... also, no comments re: my review comments?

Just sat here an hour responding to the review and when I hit post what happens?(I have timed out! Ugh......) Will try again later. I think I can respond to u both in one, but some spots I see there may be a diff. opinion so idk, we will see. Thanks guys. Thought because of the Bodog ingnorant software stunt thay u guys wouldnt be interested in a review or me responding. I guess I have to find somewhere else to play sessions now, just don't know where.

Originally Posted by Poker Orifice

00:37 K7o otb 4limpers > FOLD pre OK silly play here don't know what I was thinking.
03:20 I prob rs 2.5x, limping is ok at this level though, because you have alot of weak players & calling stations & they're not likely to be able to handread well enough to realize that if you play the hand strongly postflop there's a good chance you've hit a set (< because it'd make sense of your range in that spot.. seeing as you've only limped)
Leading out for 'min' seems ok... not a 'donkbet' because you were utg openlimper. I'd probably cbet 1/2 -2/3 pot (but the 'minbet' seemed to have worked). I also wouldn't reraise them over their big raise because it looks wayyyy too strong (unless they're an idiot & are willing to get it in with a Jack here... which they obviously are.. but vs. someone who's thinking I'd prob just 'call') Ok thanks for the correction.
03:40 utg limps, UTg1 rs 3x... I'm typically folding A3s in BB here (& any Ace lower than AQ) hate playing weak Aces OOP.. if suited I might call w ATs+
Turn I would bet out bigger than 2x (a 4th diamond on river will kill your action).. maybe bet out an amount that villain would be thinking > you're trying to steal the pot because of them checking back the flop (a small bet (to me) looks like a suckbet for value... 'please call me I have the nuts & am trying to build a pot). Ok I understand your logic here. Totally over looked the fact of the 4th diamond action killer, which has happen to me b4. I was only thinking now I have him on the hook and I wanna keep him.
　
03:50 T4o in SB.MP limps >... FOLD this hand ALL DAY LONG! Ok
07:18 KTo in SB River - I don't think we're getting any weaker hands to call here (maybe JT?) on this board... I'd be more apt to check & hope to get to showdown cheaply. I'm guessing this is a defensive bet on the river? Yeah, was thinking JT and a missed str8 draw, didn't expect to see the hooks here.
(villain didn't seem like the type who'd bet wC2 with worse so I'd prob even c/F if they bet river wC2)
07:23 Q9o otb, UTG limps (UTG has been limping alot).. I'd just FOLD here pre Ok
08:42 66 in SB Btn limps we raise 4x.... I'd likely just 'call' here... this is the same player who 'limped' with JJ otb couple orbits ago. Raising gets us to take down the pot right now but there's not much in the pot... if we get called, we're building up a pot that is going to put us in tough spots postflop while OOP (out of pos.). Blinds are still low (25/50) & we're OOP with a sm pp.. I'd just call here in this spot (esp. vs. this villain) Was thinging just take the pot now,knew was in a tight spot if called and in the wrong spot vs this villain.
09:18 TT UTG.. we just raised '3x' utg1 with A8o... now we're raising '4x' with TT UTG. In lower buyins I typically not players who have a tendancy to raise 4x in some spots (when they're typically raising 3x usually)... this is OFTEN a hand like 99-JJ. I'd just stick to 3x in this spot. All of the loose,over-valuing spewy donks have already been KO'd from the table. The only one left who is loose is misterdjc & he's been more of a loose limping preflop fish.. but not much of a station pre (vs. a raise). The others have basically been tight/standard players (esp. 'peachesmama' who's hardly played a single hand). More 'notes' on players > 'fourstrong635' has also been tight & one thing to note on their play > raising small over limps (just 3x over limper).. & small 3bet with bigPP (the KK hand). 'lmd14u' has been passive preflop & fit-fold postflop. I so wanted to skin misterdjc! Good notes here.
09:24 66 in BB.. vs CO limp (the guy who's been the chronic limper). I'd probably just 'check' here, flop a monster & your hand is disguised. If I'm raising here though, I'm 4x'ing it.. because we're OOP here & will be tough to play this hand postflop. (I would 4x & then cbet most flops) (Here I'd cbet ~225...).
... something I've noticed > when u wiff you bet bigger... when u smash the flop you bet real small. (< this is exploitable to those who are paying attention) Leak?
09:40 K9s in SB... limp is ok 'but' vs this player (who's been uber-tight) I'd be more apt to just 'raise & take it' preflop. (I do this for a few reasons... a) cuz they've been uber-tight & when they've actually played a hand they've just made a huge rrai overbet & b) cuz if we've raised BvB vs them a few times, 'hopefully' the 3rd time we've got a freak'n monster & they finall play back vs. us with their rrai shove & we snap them off & KO them when our hand holds up) < that's 'the plan' anyways Ok gottcha
09:46 98o otb, blinds have just gone up to 50/100, both players in blinds have stack sizes that shouldn't typically be 'calling' if we raise pre.. & with their tendancies (both are tight players, one is super tight) & with us being CL.. I would raise here to '225-250' in hopes of just putting pressure on them & stealing the blinds. ('if' I don't feel comfortable raising here (which I would do... again based on stuff said in '09:40'... then I would just Fold... but personally I would raise here all day long). With blinds now at 50/100 & the types of players left on table, my preflop raise size would now be standard at 225-250 Thought it would be too early to apply the pressure,was a bit uncomfortable and didn't want to be too aggresive. Guess it's time to turn up the heat and smoke the meat here ah?!
09:54 A3s in CO, again I would 'raise' here preflop > 225-250 Ok
10:25 BvB K4o in SB... 'IF' you're going to 'limp'... I would go for a > Limp>Stab>Steal
'but' vs. this player I'd probably 'minraise' to 200. I Really Doubt they're gonna 'call' pre (cuz of how they've played all game so far) & are more apt.. to fold or rrai vs your raise. Yeah played badly here.
10:57 77 in UTG1.. UTG with SS has limped w 10bb's... we raise to '300'. I'd probably raise to 350 here. As played, I'm not checking flop in hopes of 'check-raise' just because villain (fourstrong) hasn't really shown that he's betting wC2 (unlike some of the earlier players who were KO'd). We could possibly check this but I prob cbet 425. Alright
11:23 94o in BB.. c/c/c turn '9'.. I probably just 'check' this too. True, didnt think we'd see the hooks again.
11:30 A5o in SB.. Tight (TAG) player (who's 2nd in chips) MinRaise in CO (prob his stand. preflop raise size at this level).... I would FOLD the A5o in SB here ALL DAY LONG! We're OOP!!! We don't want to be getting in pots with weak Aces...esp. while OOP (we flop our Ace here & then what?.. bet?.. & if called then what on turn?.. 'or' check/Call?... then what?. pay them off?). Just make the prudent play & 'FOLD PRE'
We call & flop BPTK on boar that could hit villain's range here... this is a steal I guess? (obv.?).. so basically we could've just called pre with something like 62o w intentions of donk-betting wetboards?
Just fold this junk preflop. As seen on the screen I went for the FOLD button but neglected to hit it.
　
11:56 KK in HJ.. we raise '4x'. Just raise standard amount pre > I'd go with '250' here. You have tight players on your left who are more apt. to rrai over your raise. By raising 4x you're not giving them the impression of FoldEquity here & might even have them folding out hands they'd typically consider rrai here with (ie. 33-77,88), ATs, AJ, etc.
Raise to 250 & pray you get played back at. (& ~250 should just be our stnd. raise size).Would think no slow play here but I guess against these player this is what we want?!
~13:00 KQo in SB.. we Fold. This is fine (given the circumstances) 'but' I'd be way more apt. to play this hand then the A5o previously. (plays way better postflop than the A5o) Ok
13:59 T4o in SB BvB.. we raise full 3x vs a tight SS. I don't think we need to 3x here. This time I'd actually prob just fold (but if this is a bubble ... the 'beginner' SNG's on Bodog have top5 getting paid don't they?.. I can see a raise but would just minRaise to '300' cuz I really doubt they're ever going to just 'call' here). When we raise full 3x we're never going to want to call when they rrai 'but' we'll actually be pricing ourselves in by doing this (we'd be getting 2.3 to 1 on the call here). Maybe if they're realizing this they won't play back at us?
I would've picked other spots earlier & relentless aggressed on their BB (with minraises or 2.5x) & probably more likely to just fold here. (maybe by limping earlier you're getting more credit here for having a real hand & 'if' villain realizes that you're priced in to call their shove..they'd be more apt to just fold here... it's just not how I'd typically go about it) No real reasoning for the play here no more than just to see if I could get away with it.
14:11 Q9s in CO, minRaise to '300'. < this is what I'd be doing in the other spots earlier too!! 'nh' Ok, ty
15:45'ish' The chronic Limper (misterdjc) limps AA & then shoves 6x pot wC2.. & shows his 'AA'. I'd probably add another note to his player > his 'wide' limping range also includes big hands in weird spots. (he's also been limping a ton & making plays at pots postflop often)Still wanting to skin!
17:26 3left BvB w 54o.. 'FOLD' pre
we limp & then check-raise on 987 flop with ignorant end of a gutterball (even if we hit, we could be crushed). I don't bother with making a play at this pot in this spot vs. this villain who's been limping his big hands & when he bets 'POT' here on this board.
"Can We Play this different?" < yes, FOLD PRE (I wrote 'Fold Pre' (& all of my comments) prior to watching any of the hands play out.. none of the comments are based on what villain held, only their likely ranges).
I'm never even betting this river here (we're never going to get called by worse hands). Thought this was the skinning, was so wrong here!

Thanks for the review!

I can relate to the > 'wanting to skin him' (vs. that player) LOL

I was thinking the same about a few of the players who went out earlier in the game.

yw

No videos? Come on guys!!!

Originally Posted by NEWTDOG101

No videos? Come on guys!!!

I will for sure put up a few here in the near(<?) future. Way too busy with work at the moment.
Most likely will do a vid. w 4-6 tables (mtt) on the screen (maybe even a CC game thrown in the mix)
It's not likely to happen before Christmas though

I'll try and do one in next week. Could anyone advise me on how I would make a video?

Also do you cut the video to include non-interesting hands?

I can see this helping STT but to analyze MTT's would take a lot of "tape so to speak"
Maybe sweat each other would be better for you MTT play but idk.

Originally Posted by Poker Orifice

I will for sure put up a few here in the near(<?) future. Way too busy with work at the moment.
Most likely will do a vid. w 4-6 tables (mtt) on the screen (maybe even a CC game thrown in the mix)
It's not likely to happen before Christmas though

Ok cool PO, I can totally understand the work flow! Looking forward to see you in action in the future tho!

Originally Posted by BlueNowhere

I'll try and do one in next week. Could anyone advise me on how I would make a video?

I will PM you on this!

Originally Posted by BlueNowhere

Also do you cut the video to include non-interesting hands?

I use to but I don't anymore I just adjust the clip speed so I show the whole game. Ex. I take an 1.5 hr video and turn it into 30 to 35 mins.

Originally Posted by JOEBOB69

I can see this helping STT but to analyze MTT's would take a lot of "tape so to speak"
Maybe sweat each other would be better for you MTT play but idk.

True Joe, but I was thinking for MTT show a breakdown view. You know like Start tourney play, Mid tourney play and FT tourney play. Something like that.
Sweat sessions can be good also!

Yeah.......yeah.I know the update really sucks but for the time being I still play there and still have no problem winning there. I am 4/5 in these tourneys since they came about and they are pretty easy! New Anon. tables and all! Take a look and please comment.
http://www.screencast.com/users/NEWT...d-27152ee5764a

Originally Posted by NEWTDOG101

Basic Micro SnG tourney's to add to your BR and move to the next level. Mainly a Cash and Go for me. Will add a few MTT tourneys also. Still working out some details so stay tuned and please comment.

Wow, nice job.
Here are the comments of the dutch jury.
I would be glad if there will be responses to this if i'm somewhere completely wrong in my thinking/comments.

01:06 A8o would have folded too

03:00 AKs BB 30, I'd just make it 90, as played I would probably kept Cbet kinda smaller, think 160 (into a pot of 255).

05:50 99 dunno bout the call after the shove. Wouldn't fold, but do we want to see the other caller get to see a flop ? As played, think I would bet a little more on the flop after making the set (think 430 into pot of 1762). Think I would have bet the turn too, instead of the check.

08:33 Wonder what you would have done if there was no raise to 800 with 33 on the button.

08:53 I would not limp with A6o. I would either shove or fold, but I tend to shove. I wouldn't just rase to say 1000 because of the stack left to you. Think I would shove there.

10:00 A4o dunno, any experts ?? complete or shove ?? or even give a walk ?
Think I would shove but certainly not complete.

10:30 A6o on the button, just a shove to me.

10:56 AA you're minraising (40 % of stack) and committed if called by the BB.
I would just shove.Minraising here screams "CALL ME".

11:20 QQ I would go over the top and shove.

Next hand idem dito.

12:34 87o , leak in my game fixed by PO, but am sure I would fold there. Read the comment of PO though and am pretty sure it's a shove. Plenty of FE and in case of a call, even if we lose, chances are still there we get 3rd place.

13:00 A4o 3-handed I would shove there from the SB. Result remains the same thouhg.
Nb, I'm certainly not an expert, so again, feel free to correct me where I'm wrong.
It's a learning proces after all.

Originally Posted by NEWTDOG101

Yeah.......yeah.I know the update really sucks but for the time being I still play there and still have no problem winning there. I am 4/5 in these tourneys since they came about and they are pretty easy! New Anon. tables and all! Take a look and please comment.
http://www.screencast.com/users/NEWT...d-27152ee5764a

2:01 AKs slighlty bigger I prefer at least 70. I'd like to know your thinking of betting the turn when the 7 hits? Delayed continuation bet? I prefer check/call on river, raising seems pointless.

3:50 I'm tempted to squeeze (until I saw he had Kings lol ). As played def fold flop. I think I even prefer just to check flop rather than bet 1/4 pot.

7:49 don't limp, just fold pre.

9:20 no need to call min bet, just let it go.

9:50 I'm tempted to shove pre and increase stack by 26% with small risk.

16:07 what range do you put him on and why is the K a good card to shove on? call pre is a bit meh as well.

23:52 I raise smaller. If you plan on folding if shoved on raise the min you can get away with. no need to put in so much of your stack.

25:30 I probably raise ATC here just to steal since 5 doesn't really seem to want to defend his blinds.

33:34 I just go ahead and raise like 2.2xBB.

34:12 Raise, he clearly isn't defending and has not adjusted once all game

34:19 Raise

35:10 blinds 200/400 you raise from sb to 1200, far too big a raise. Whats your plan if shoved on? Only thing you can do against this player is fold and lose a big chunk of your stack.

36:20 limp is completely illogical, just abuse this player relentlessly. He shows absolutely no signs of adjusting so I don't get why you limp? then you bet 1200 into a pot of 960? A bet of like 700 would have bene just as effective although I suppose it doesn't paticularly matter in this spot as we call a shove whatever we bet.

36:37 I just carry on raising alot, if they call most of the time you take it away on the flop

38:25 raise ATC for reasons already stated

Will probably try and make a vid in the near future

Subbing

Originally Posted by BlueNowhere

2:01 AKs slighlty bigger I prefer at least 70. I'd like to know your thinking of betting the turn when the 7 hits? Delayed continuation bet? I prefer check/call on river, raising seems pointless. Why 70? Yes the turn bet was a c/bet, actually was looking for the c/c or c/f on the flop, check/call river why? Both limped and checked flop so apparently they are weak so we bet for value because at this point I place them on a sm pr (lower than tens) or a draw hand, as for the river not per say a raise but I don't like the min bet here, just looks to fishy, figured if we were good on the turn we are still good at the river, why not gain a little.

3:50 I'm tempted to squeeze (until I saw he had Kings lol ). As played def fold flop. I think I even prefer just to check flop rather than bet 1/4 pot. I've been beat so many times jammin this hand, I can see checking the flop but we have 2nd best kicker so I say it's worth a decent bet but with a raise and reraise I knew we were behind AQ and KK, possible QQ also.

7:49 don't limp, just fold pre. I agree, I could here PO saying "Fold that junk" lol Woulda won the hand tho! lol

9:20 no need to call min bet, just let it go. Agree

9:50 I'm tempted to shove pre and increase stack by 26% with small risk. If folded to that was my plan!

16:07 what range do you put him on and why is the K a good card to shove on? call pre is a bit meh as well. Player is very tight, I put him on overs here, AQ-AT,even KQ, QJ, flop puts me at around 80 %, turn (K) I drop to 60-65 %, I'm thinking this is good enough to push and thinking of playing the player (tight) and not only the cards, was sure I could take it with a shove. The call pre, just trying to mix in a few draw hands (connectors) that's all.

23:52 I raise smaller. If you plan on folding if shoved on raise the min you can get away with. no need to put in so much of your stack. It was folded to me and the players to my left are both tight/passive so basically look to steal blinds here. Nothing less than 3x here imo but I could be wrong.

25:30 I probably raise ATC here just to steal since 5 doesn't really seem to want to defend his blinds. Considered

33:34 I just go ahead and raise like 2.2xBB. K2o against player 6? Umm...

34:12 Raise, he clearly isn't defending and has not adjusted once all game Agree

34:19 Raise Again J5o against player 6? Umm....

35:10 blinds 200/400 you raise from sb to 1200, far too big a raise. Whats your plan if shoved on? Only thing you can do against this player is fold and lose a big chunk of your stack. Remember this player does not defend so we steal as often as we can against him, if he shove we fold and pick it right back up.

36:20 limp is completely illogical, just abuse this player relentlessly. He shows absolutely no signs of adjusting so I don't get why you limp? then you bet 1200 into a pot of 960? A bet of like 700 would have bene just as effective although I suppose it doesn't paticularly matter in this spot as we call a shove whatever we bet. Yeah I was just messing around with this dude. lol

36:37 I just carry on raising alot, if they call most of the time you take it away on the flop True

38:25 raise ATC for reasons already stated Dito

Thanks for the review!

CC's Winter League is here! Congrats to all that are playing. League can be a great learning session and we have a lot of new players this season, so with that being said feel free to post videos for review of league play! Need help send me a PM or comment here! GL all

I'll post videos.

I probably need the help in the early stages, since my strategy before was just to play really tight in the beginning, now that won't work because were starting short handed.

Good luck, I hope more people do this.