Stalling - Does it tilt you?

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I'm a little torn after a tournament on a new site.

I understand trying to delay to get past the bubble, but by the final table, it was a total boat race thanks to the blinds beheading every player.

I feel like this is sub-par table etiquette but obviously allowed. I'm curious to see if anybody feels like it's actually a solid way to play tables. I hope to hear "it's just for donks", but I might learn something otherwise.
 
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Not really, but it does get on my nerves when people just do it for no reason... Or by the bubble... I try to play the game to win not pussyfoot my way into bubble money lol
 
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Most players that think people are stalling are actually just bad players that don't understand that most decisions require actual thought. Bad players act within seconds because they are just looking at their cards and acting, but more advanced players think on much higher levels, so sometimes it takes several minutes to make a profitable decision.
 
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Most players that think people are stalling are actually just bad players that don't understand that most decisions require actual thought. Bad players act within seconds because they are just looking at their cards and acting, but more advanced players think on much higher levels, so sometimes it takes several minutes to make a profitable decision.

I hope I can tell the difference! We're talking running down the entire counter EVERY play on EVERY hand.

BOL has a LONG freaking counter and no timebank, which is probably part of the problem.
 
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If you are taking several minutes to make a profitable decision at a poker table you probably are not very profitable. In response to tanking around bubble time, I usually don't mind, but I'm of the mindset of let's hurry up and get hands done fast so I can see more cards and try to get it in before blinds kill me, even if I'm short stacked.
 
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Bigger GTDS I don't mind it to much, but when your ****ing tanking in a $25 gtd freeroll... You need to rethink your prerogatives in life!
 
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why don't u try and use to your advantage???

If you can get few players on tilt, with your stalling, why not, get their money.... easy money.

I use to do that on occasion, and if you turn your chat off, they can't get into your head with comments
 
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Hate it, but it's just a matter of live online. Too many other distractions.
 
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they get a clock, try not to let it bother you ....not much you can do about it

try to use the extra time to figure out your next play
 
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If you let it tilt you , who is benefiting the most???.....scorp
 
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If it's for a really small payout it's annoying...cmon people, you're actually stalling for 5 bucks? Really?

OTOH, if it's somewhat bigger and right on the bubble or 2-3 spots off of it, I completely understand and have definitely done it just bc I can see others doing it, and it sucks being put at a disadvantage.

Now, people that do it 15 off the bubble, they should take up another hobby.
 
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Some sites wait for other tables near the bubble. But if you are short stacked and close to the bubble, and maybe the blinds are coming around but your table will break down if one more is eliminated, then why not stall.
 
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Stalling says nothing at all about players online. read nothing into it or you will psych yourself out.
 
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People have the right to take the time allotted to make their decision. If it bothers you you are letting your emotions rule you. <palpatine voice> Gooooood. Let the darkness guide you. </palpatine voice>
 
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Nobody's odds or outs will change by someone stalling. It means nothing other than you can relax for a bit
 
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Patience is truly a virtue, especially in poker. A lesson I have been slow to learn, to my detriment.
 
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People have the right to take the time allotted to make their decision. If it bothers you you are letting your emotions rule you. <palpatine voice> Gooooood. Let the darkness guide you. </palpatine voice>

I certainly agree. I'm only referring to the impression of this being taken advantage of to shoot an angle. A cardroom is ultimately responsible for time allotted per action.
 
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This is exactly why, I run down the clock. I find it is easy to put people on tilt. It is also easier to steal blinds. But the single most reason why I use up the clock is, it prevents me from making rookie mistakes, i have folded top pair or even two pair to trips, I have also caught many players trying to bluff me, when their betting patterns did not make sense.
 
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i really blame pokerstars and full tilt poker for giving players so much time to act in every hand. i agree with the time bank however pokersites (at least ftp and pokerstars) give players at least 20 to 30 seconds to act in every single action a player made and they warned you when you have 15 seconds to act in pokerstars.
isnt 10 or 15 seconds enough for a simple action like folding or calling giving the fact that you have a time bank for the tough decisions?. i know that this benefits players who multi table lots of tournaments not just 3 or 4, however i think pokersites should be making some tournaments with less time bank and less time to make decisions for those who wants a much faster paced game and dont multitable on a lot of games.
 
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i really blame pokerstars and full tilt poker for giving players so much time to act in every hand. i agree with the time bank however pokersites (at least ftp and pokerstars) give players at least 20 to 30 seconds to act in every single action a player made and they warned you when you have 15 seconds to act in pokerstars.
isnt 10 or 15 seconds enough for a simple action like folding or calling giving the fact that you have a time bank for the tough decisions?. i know that this benefits players who multi table lots of tournaments not just 3 or 4, however i think pokersites should be making some tournaments with less time bank and less time to make decisions for those who wants a much faster paced game and dont multitable on a lot of games.

Yea I want speed poker. Not rush or zoom just regular poker without the long timers and timebanks.
 
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Hand-to-hand tactics

When I'm short on stack while i'm near the paid place, I found a really usefull tactics.

I just take all my reserve of time when it is my turn.
I use this tactics in freeroll.

Also, when all people goes all-in , in the debut of a freeroll, I use this tactics and sometimes other player stop to goes all-in...
 
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When the game goes hard to hand you don't need to do it,if you have under ten BB you must start take time at list 15 to 20 people before the bubble..Also in free roll nobody plays poker at list the first hour,they play roulette!!!!The best strategy is to play only best best hands in freerolls because nobady knows where the fold button is!!!
 
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When the game goes hard to hand you don't need to do it,if you have under ten BB you must start take time at list 15 to 20 people before the bubble..Also in free roll nobody plays poker at list the first hour,they play roulette!!!!The best strategy is to play only best best hands in freerolls because nobady knows where the fold button is!!!

I have to disagree with you slightly Xastaria, it depends on the table, in the last freeroll i played in I drew a table that, I kid you not, nobody would play a hand ( except shoving the top 1%) , so I just kept stealing and stealing, we all started with 5k in chips, by the time our table broke about an hour and half later I had just over 25k. The all-in or fold dynamic is horrible if everyone at the table is doing it. I hate repeating it, but that saying of "play the players not the cards" is so very true, even in freerolls.
 
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I agree with xastaria. The unfortunate thing here is that you cannot afford to rely on having a good hand alone. I ind it is best to wait for a good hand and only move in with it once there are 3 or less people in the pot, or else play cautiously and let that "monster" hand of yours go.
 
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