regular tournaments and turbos?

This is a discussion on regular tournaments and turbos? within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; Is there any difference in strategy? Besides turning up the speed as when you change gears? are they ne more or less profitable?...
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  #1
30th July 2010, 6:31 AM
akcash
 
Poker at: Stars
Game: holdem
regular tournaments and turbos?

Is there any difference in strategy? Besides turning up the speed as when you change gears?

are they ne more or less profitable?
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  #2
30th July 2010, 2:14 PM
Arjonius
 
In general, you should probably ramp your aggression level up a notch in turbos. The blinds are eaten away faster of course, so you have less leeway to wait for better hands. This is compounded in that since the other players will be more aggressive, just playing your normal full-table game will make you relatively less aggressive.
  #3
30th July 2010, 2:31 PM
straytfrush
 
Poker at: Bodog/Stars
Game: holdem
Turbos are more profitable because you can play more of them in a shorter amount of time. Sure there is more variance, but multitabling turbos leads to a greater payout assuming you are a winning player.
  #4
30th July 2010, 8:15 PM
akcash
 
Online Poker at: Stars
Game: holdem
re: regular tournaments and turbos? poker

thanks guys, i guess play more semi connectors, and 2 suited cards?
  #5
30th July 2010, 8:54 PM
akcash
 
Poker at: Stars
Game: holdem
does anybody have ne links for turbo sitngo strategy?
  #6
31st July 2010, 3:40 AM
akcash
 
Online Poker at: Stars
Game: holdem
bump ne more feedback?
  #7
31st July 2010, 9:22 AM
Poker Orifice
 
Poker at: Playground
Game: NLHE
Quote:
Originally Posted by akcash
thanks guys, i guess play more semi connectors, and 2 suited cards?
No No No Noooooo

I'd have to 'DISAGREE' with some of the advice that's been given to you above. We don't necessarily ramp (amp, or whatever) up the aggression because blinds are going up so much quicker. You'll actually find that there's a ton more re-steal shoving.. so if you're choosing to start opening real wide you're going to be pricing yourself in with alot of crap.

Use selective aggression (pick ur spots!.. ie. look for spots to shove your stack over Laggy guy's incessant LP steals... make him the chipstack spewer). Learn shove/fold game (probably need to shove alot wider than you'd typically assume & call tighter vs. others who aren't shoving wide enough).

Also, in your initial post here are you referring primarily to SNG's.. or to Turbo MTT's as well? Because when I first read the title I assumed 'Tournaments'.. as in MTT (but then didn't answer for that after reading the other responses).

For Turbo MTT it's all about knowing how to play different stack sizes (a common mistake you'll often see is players calling raises on stacks or around 15bb's.. or 15-20bbs when they should be clearly shoving over allin in most cases... or folding.. ie. CO raises w 23bb stack.. you wake up with 10-10 on Btn.. with 16-20bb's.. just shove the whole stack in. Calling with any thought to folding postflop is just not a good way to play Turbo MTTs). I could be way more specific with certain hand history examples (above isn't the greatest but it's a start).
Summation - knowing how to adjust your play re: different stack sizes is key (and NO.. that doesn't mean "oh.. blinds are going up, I've got 18bb's.. I'd better open realy light here to steal cuz I'm in CO.. because in Turbos if you have re-steal-sized stacks to your left, you have to always keep in mind that they could be shoving allin overtop of your raise (and raise/folding with a stack of <18bb's really sucks in Turbo mtts).

If you can get a bit more specific with your question, I'll try to be more specific with my answers here.
  #8
2nd August 2010, 1:53 AM
akcash
 
Online Poker at: Stars
Game: holdem
re: regular tournaments and turbos? poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Poker Orifice
No No No Noooooo

I'd have to 'DISAGREE' with some of the advice that's been given to you above. We don't necessarily ramp (amp, or whatever) up the aggression because blinds are going up so much quicker. You'll actually find that there's a ton more re-steal shoving.. so if you're choosing to start opening real wide you're going to be pricing yourself in with alot of crap.

Use selective aggression (pick ur spots!.. ie. look for spots to shove your stack over Laggy guy's incessant LP steals... make him the chipstack spewer). Learn shove/fold game (probably need to shove alot wider than you'd typically assume & call tighter vs. others who aren't shoving wide enough).

Also, in your initial post here are you referring primarily to SNG's.. or to Turbo MTT's as well? Because when I first read the title I assumed 'Tournaments'.. as in MTT (but then didn't answer for that after reading the other responses).

For Turbo MTT it's all about knowing how to play different stack sizes (a common mistake you'll often see is players calling raises on stacks or around 15bb's.. or 15-20bbs when they should be clearly shoving over allin in most cases... or folding.. ie. CO raises w 23bb stack.. you wake up with 10-10 on Btn.. with 16-20bb's.. just shove the whole stack in. Calling with any thought to folding postflop is just not a good way to play Turbo MTTs). I could be way more specific with certain hand history examples (above isn't the greatest but it's a start).
Summation - knowing how to adjust your play re: different stack sizes is key (and NO.. that doesn't mean "oh.. blinds are going up, I've got 18bb's.. I'd better open realy light here to steal cuz I'm in CO.. because in Turbos if you have re-steal-sized stacks to your left, you have to always keep in mind that they could be shoving allin overtop of your raise (and raise/folding with a stack of <18bb's really sucks in Turbo mtts).

If you can get a bit more specific with your question, I'll try to be more specific with my answers here.
yea i meant sit n goes.
  #9
2nd August 2010, 3:19 AM
OzExorcist
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: wild deuces
SnG strategy is largely based around your stack size - so the fundamental strategy of the game doesn't change when you go from regular to turbo games, you just get to the short stacked push-fold part a bit quicker.

If you can keep a similar ROI in both forms then turbos should be more profitable because you'll be getting in more games. $/hr is the figure you need to keep an eye on.
  #10
2nd August 2010, 3:46 AM
akcash
 
Online Poker at: Stars
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by OzExorcist
SnG strategy is largely based around your stack size - so the fundamental strategy of the game doesn't change when you go from regular to turbo games, you just get to the short stacked push-fold part a bit quicker.

If you can keep a similar ROI in both forms then turbos should be more profitable because you'll be getting in more games. $/hr is the figure you need to keep an eye on.
so its basically the same strategy but you change gears quicker?
  #11
2nd August 2010, 3:57 AM
OzExorcist
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: wild deuces
Yeah, I guess. A basic SnG strategy is to play tight and conserve chips early then make good push-fold decisions when effective stacks are around 10BB. A turbo will just get you to that push/fold stage faster.
  #12
2nd August 2010, 4:30 AM
akcash
 
Online Poker at: Stars
Game: holdem
re: regular tournaments and turbos? poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by OzExorcist
Yeah, I guess. A basic SnG strategy is to play tight and conserve chips early then make good push-fold decisions when effective stacks are around 10BB. A turbo will just get you to that push/fold stage faster.
true that.
  #13
2nd August 2010, 5:15 AM
tomines
 
Poker at: FullTiltPoke
Game: holdem
take notes man.. It helps a lot.. then play tight and aggressive.. and you will surely take it.. make sure don't be super tight.. sometimes you gotta take the risk.. it's only 1$ or 2$ sng .. that's what i'm playing.. so take the risk sometimes.. but make sure you have something.. or you have lots of outs
 



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