re: Poker & Regarding a hand that absolutely has me in shock!
Look, I see what most of you are saying, and yes I knew I was beat pre-flop, I even told myself that he had 77. However, a loose player, by my definition, does not included the ability to call all his chips off in a 4 way pot with less than 77 Ė if I thought he was capable of calling there I would have never made the squeeze.
The 13K from UTG was from a regular who is not very good. I have a long history with him and frankly, he might as well turn the cards face up Ė I knew he had AK, so calling pre-flop to take a flop with 55 is not a bad play even after considering the size of my stack; since I know his hand Iím no longer set hunting, just no AK hunting. Plus the cutoff that pushed all-in had been folding for the last 90 minutes and didnít seem to have any understanding of his stack in relation to the blinds, or for that matter, position, case in point he pushed into an UTG raise and UTG+1 call with Ad Jd (butÖbutÖthey were suited) Ė obviously there was a risk of the all-in, but at that time it could have gone either way.
I think the worst part of that hand is the buttonsí smooth call with 66 Ė he might as well have turned them up, yeah I thought he had 77 but I wasnít afraid of a big hand because he would have 4 bet in that case Ė remember I know this guy pretty well too. I REALLY THOUGHT I COULD GET HIM TO FOLD!
If you want to call me a donkey fine, but a double up by getting my pocket pair up against a weak players desperation all-in is what I was going for here; I donít think it was a bad play at all Ė definitely aggressive and not necessary with my stack, but after I got involved, way too attractive to get away from; how does the button know that I donít have a big pair? Just for grins letís take a hypothetical and imagine that the button ran the squeeze and pushed all-in after the desperation all-in, and the AK from UTG folded; what do I do? Fold every day and twice on Tuesdays even if I think there is a reasonable chance the button has 44.
I said something to him after the hand was over as well and he got defensive and said ďI was getting short stackedĒ Ė just to reiterate, he had over 20 big blinds Ė which again I think proves my point Ė idiot that couldnít fold despite almost certainly thinking he was behind, if he was thinking at all!
We were down to the final 20+ players, I think 7 got paid maybe 8, Iím not sure and we had been playing for 6 hours at this point. This is one of the better structures but itís still kind of a turbo, but if you invest the money you are really deep stacked with 400 BB to start. There are 30 minute levels with constantly doubling blinds, but they do throw in a couple of mediocre levels every so often, like instead of going from 1K 2K to 2K 4K there is a 1.5K 3K level. My stack was amongst the chips leaders, though there was one monster stack at another table by a guy Iíve never seen before so Iím sure it was good play that got him that stack, LOL. If I had it to do over again, as confident as I was about all of my opponents holdings, I would have just called pre-flop and shoved after the flop, but in this particular hand I would have lost since a King fell on the flop. In actuality the AK folded but by smooth calling he doesnít, obviously, and I think thatís why I felt the squeeze not only would work, but was my only chance to win the pot!
Iíve been beat before and I can take it Ė I didnít go Hellmuth on the guy Ė though I wonder what he would have said. I just donít understand the play, in the best case scenario he had to think he was taking 66 into a four way pot against 6 over cards. But again, I have to wonder if he was even thinking!