Live tourney final table

I played a tourney last night and hit the final table. I have about 35k and blinds are 1000-2000 with 300 ante. 10 players. The bubble is at 7 but we made a deal where 8th and 9th place gets 100$ (buyin for tourney was 140)

This a KO style tourney. Shortstack in UTG+2 shoves for 4k allin. A bigstack new to the table so I have no reads or history on flat calls. He has 70k in chips roughly. Im in the small blind with AK of clubs.

What do you do?

I'll post what I did and what happened after some posts.

Probably just call if it was me. The big stack is probably going to check it down (implied collusion) unless he hits big and so you'll get a cheap showdown and a good chance to win ~10k.

With an M = 5.8 I shove and fist pump.

You have 17bb's, you're dealt a monster.. there's 14k in the middle (~40% of your stack)... "SHOVE"

go all in and hope to get called.

Guessing > you 'called'.. flopped TPTK on a seemingly harmless board. Lead out & villain either 'calls' (& reraises turn).. or reraises you here > you shove, he calls & he shows a set.. 'boom'.. you're out!
(just kidding... but am guessing this was the outcome).
'or'... villain was on BTN & had a MONSTER.. SB had a 10bb-ish stack & you with 17bb.. he 'flats' with his AA in hopes of one of the blinds shipping it. You do ship it.. his face lights up as he turns over 'AA'... boom.. 'gg'

ok.. suspense is starting to eat away at me. Whcn can I check back to see the result?

No matter the outcome - that is a shove. Big stack probably folds, looks at you and says, "You better make it happen, hero."

Thank you all for your replies. I was thinking that a shove preflop would have been the best play.

Heres what happened: (disclaimer: i played this hand effing horribly so please go easy on me)

I reraised to 13k trying to send a message that big stack should gtf out. He called my raise. Flop comes Tc Td 6c. At this point I'm concerned hes got a monster (AA, KK) as he flatted the allin, and then called my 3bet. As i said I'm on the bubble and this guy can send me packing right now. I really just wanted him to fold preflop.

I checked the flop, and villain bets 8k (about 1/4 the pot). at this point it just feels like hes trying to suck me in and I'm more and more fearing AA or KK. I should have taken all the time i needed to go through his range. 88+, >JT

I'm really only a dog to a small percentage of his hands (AA, KK) im only 36% to win, TT im dead, and Any T im 25% Anything else (JJ,QQ >JQ) im a favorite at 60% or more.

I succumb to my fears of being bubble boy and fold. I realize I should have Shoved on him here and that a preflop shove would have been even better. The other thing i could have done is just called and seen a flop.

In the end, villain turns up j6o and the 4c comes on the turn giving the original allin 2 pair and triples up.

I was not happy. I did manage to cash 7th (the same big stack raised 4.5 bb and I shoved on him with jacks for about 5bb, he had AQ and spiked a Q on the flop )

I'm mad at myself for being scared to miss the money but it is not a failure as I learned a valuable lesson with this hand.

In this particular structure I shove. Big stack will fold anything besides like QQ+, AK. You dont want to call and check it down and have the big stack hit a pair on the river with like KJ.

Even on that flop I still shove all in. Don't be afraid of a paired board. If he hit trips, it wasn't meant to be. I agree with others, this is a ship preflop, everytime. (Given stack sizes, etc...).

Villain had J6o?

You're not deep enough to be raising him here pre (unless you have intentions of raising for ~1/3 of your stack & shoving all flops but in this hand that just wouldn't make sense to take that line unless you had ~25bb's or something.. here it's an ez shove pre)

I don't understand how this can be a shove pre?
Surely it's better to get the shortstack out and in a threeway pot he's less likely to win, meaning the bubble will burst. If you shove you have no FE as ones already all in, theres no dead money to win.
I agree that your short but I think flatting is still the best option and then check it down.
Obviously lots of information is missing like other player stack sizes and tendancies etc.
(opinion of a SNG player, maybe tourny ICM and bubble play is a bit different).

So then if they're only calling with QQ+, AK? Ya think? I'd assume we'd get called alot wider than that.. & would not be opposed to it either!

In that situation you have to shove

If you want to win, shove and hop for a double up and a nice stack! Or if you want to just barely make it into the cash, than fold your way into the money.. it's your choice.
I would shove preflop given the stack sizes etc... I mean you could flat and check it down, but what's the guarantee that the other guy will check it down also?

I know this is a few days old but i think the call is my play here. Especially if you were looking to make the money. (This might change if i knew the payout structure) If you call in the sb, the bb shouldn't even have to look at his cards to call. With four people and no side pot its a simple check down. Plus the big stack said hey lets check this down with his call. If he didn't want a check down he would have raised.

I can't speak for online play but in most live tournaments it will be checked down unless someone hits a monster but really even then it's a good chance of a check down.

Shove gives you the best chance to win. but it sounds like making the money was more important to you than winning the tournament so fold or call next time.

Thanks for the insight.

I think you played it well enough. At that point, you might as well go for broke or fold pre-flop since he was just trying to waste money anyway. Wasting a couple dozen grand isn't the most logical thing but the momentum gained from him showing you he's not afraid to go for broke at that point prob dealt the table a psychological blow.

Yeah maybe I'd include 99-JJ as well and possibly AQ. But 35k is half of the big stack's stack. AND it's near the bubble, so he wouldn't think that you would shove light.

You have no choice but to shove on your opponent. Chances of him having a monster are slim. I would shove to give myself the best opportunity to win the tournament, and not just itm.