| This is a discussion on Limping low pair-SC... within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; I have read a number of books and made/read a number of posts, and I am still never entirely sure what to do. In a ... |
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| Limping low pair-SC... I have read a number of books and made/read a number of posts, and I am still never entirely sure what to do. In a SnG or MTT: Problem 1. Low Pocket Pair. If it is real early tourny and I have no read on the table I am likely to can 22-88 utg-EP w/o thinking (and maybe up to JJ, depends...). But, especially in later positions (and even sometimes utg, depending on table dynamics) I have been limping with low PP: And, so far, its +ev. It is not always the correct decision with the pot odds I am getting, but I know that the players on my table - low buy in - are not paying much attention to pot odds, so I make my decision not only on pot odds, but with my players in mind as well. Ive been keeping track, its only a month or so, but I am +ev as I fold when I dont hit and am raised, but when I hit it has payed of well. I also am not sure how to deal with low PP later in the tourny. I have been told NO LIMPING!!! but it works on the low buy ins a lot, I am not always punished. I seem to see enough flops cheaply, and when I come in blasting I am often called, then if I dont hit im in trouble. Of course, this is only EP, if its checked to me I am always aggressive in LP late stage. Early stage in position, play the low PP? Call and see a cheap flop, or get aggressive (early stage)? Problem 2. Suited Connectors. From what position/tourny stage do I limp/raise/fold with em? I dont feel comfortable UTG and 10 BB left going 3 BB utg with 89 suited Am I just being too timid, or fold em here?... Auto fold UTG? Auto raise late stage, SS? |
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| Not Sure But Early in a large MTT, calling with small pocket pairs out of position is OK, but hitting trips about 10% of the time is a waist. Stealing small blinds is OK, but seems like a waist too. Raise and reraise is probably the most profitable early on (depending on the players and cards). Mid and late stages, small pairs look better and better to me and are opportunities to win some serious chips. Final table and SH, they get even better. I will be looking forward to other CC's answers on question 2. Call and see the flop is what I usually do early. Raise and reraise or bluff has been effective mid and late stages, again, depending on the players and the cards. |
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| 1. Small pp (below 88) are not profitable after the early blind levels in MTTs unless effective stack sizes are 40-50 BBs or more. You could try limping behind if others limp but you are asking to get shoved on in many cases. Just open fold them. They are good for restealing vs. the button but trying to steal with them before CO is not going to work, you will get called/shoved on too many times and your hand is unplayable postflop. KQo is a lot more valuable than 66. 2. Fold the 98, if you have less than 6 BBs you certainly shove but you can wait another orbit. |
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| re: Limping low pair-SC... poker I'd say the ultimate answer is 'it depends'. There are too many variables in poker to discuss this and get 'the right answer'. Why not just raise? If your table image is solid, you raise (potentially isolating the pot, potentially taking the blinds/antes.) If you raise and hit the flop big, a continuation bet seems just like that. If you limp/call and then hit big, it's gonna be suspect when you start firing up the action on a garbagey pot. My playstyle is to bring weaker holdings to raised pots against deep stacks, but that's my cash game strategy. In tournaments, I only bring solid holdings to flops, especially since there are ussually a few short-stacks that are just waiting to jam on you, and god forbid you get pot-odds with your A6o vs QQ. Back to the question at hand, I'd say it depends. I hate to fold a 66 when I could have limped and seen a flop that has a 6 on it, but I'd hate to play a set on a rainbow rag board that only has a few BBs in the pot. |
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| with antes the blinds are generally quite high.. so limping in with small PP is really bad... if someone shoves on you, you must fold.. or call and be in a coinflip at best.. (BAD) it can be ok to shove them later on.. but it depends a lot on the blinds and what position your in.. stack sizes etc. |
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