I've been playing terrible this weekend and I know what I'm doing wrong? lol

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Really strange week, I've basically let my emotions get the better of me calling hands that I should be folding I know Im behind holding a low flush in one situation obvious he had the nut flush due to how he had played the turn, but I have to see it to prove that im right. Lol.

I went through maybe $70.00 yesterday which is pretty wreckless but Its been like a self destruction week.

I've just kind of clawed my cash back within one win of where I need to be and ended up bubbling the important game that would of let me relax and focus solely on just making good decisions emotionally unattached from the game,
Or I end up making a play that goes wrong either bad timing unfortunate spotting,

Maybe sit n gos aren't for me its too much around in circles starting a new game again and having to play a slow steady game over and over, cards sequencing over and over to the point where I am visualising the flop correctly after seeing my opponents hand having been here in this situation a thousand times before 80% of the time dont even need to watch the 5 cards come as I know by the first 3 what the runner runner Is going to do.

The most Ironic thing is as soon as I realise im close to going broke i'll play a 90 man $1 or $2.50 tournament and plough through the field with a huge edge, time and time again....
So I know Ive got the ability but its proving a problem for me long term... Like maybe once you win one or two 45/90 mans they take you 2 hours.. its a bit boring... and frustrating having to accumalate all those chips again
:rolleyes:

Rant over I guess :shakehand
 
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Well, you've identified your leak! That's a decent start.

I too, have had a similar problem in the past, and it resurfaces for a hand or two time and time again.

I make the right read, a dead on read...and YET....make the wrong call or fold....grrrrrr..... occasionally it is OK to satisfy your curiosity by calling if it is cheap enough and you think you'll be able to use that information profitably later....but just calling out of an emotional reaction, or a need to "know" is for sure a leak...a curiosity luxury that our bankrolls just cannot afford.

but...I've been there done that....hopefully I've kicked the habit for a while. A few months ago I played a whole entire $1,000 tourney just off my game....making good reads and bad calls, then getting lucky and doubling up or sucking out...then making more good reads and bad calls/folds....then scrambling back up through luck....finally I took myself out of the tournament...and I totally deserved to be busted. I was not proud of myself at all that day....
 
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The most Ironic thing is as soon as I realise im close to going broke i'll play a 90 man $1 or $2.50 tournament and plough through the field with a huge edge, time and time again....
So I know Ive got the ability but its proving a problem for me long term... Like maybe once you win one or two 45/90 mans they take you 2 hours.. its a bit boring... and frustrating having to accumalate all those chips again
:rolleyes:

Rant over I guess :shakehand
Poker isn't equally fun all the time. Sometimes, you just have to choose between taking a short-term view and a mid- or long-term
one.

In this case, you might consider something like playing those boring 45/90s until you reach a target BR of say $500, $750 or even $1000. If they're truly soft for you, it won't take all that long. When you reach your target, you'll be rolled to play higher for a while, plus you'll have given yourself the chance to put some work into improving your self-discipline re. both BRM and playing your A game at a level that's lower than where you'd prefer to be.
 
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Poker isn't equally fun all the time. Sometimes, you just have to choose between taking a short-term view and a mid- or long-term
one.

In this case, you might consider something like playing those boring 45/90s until you reach a target BR of say $500, $750 or even $1000. If they're truly soft for you, it won't take all that long. When you reach your target, you'll be rolled to play higher for a while, plus you'll have given yourself the chance to put some work into improving your self-discipline re. both BRM and playing your A game at a level that's lower than where you'd prefer to be.


Great reply.

I think thats an important element of discipline being able to play the more boring games and take the variance that comes with it.

I decided to take a break from pokerstars this week and was very positive elsewhere.
When I go back I am thinking of playing $1 and under mtts, but more importantly I'l be playing alot of cash, prob going to have less time spare for the forseeable :)
 
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Maybe sit n gos aren't for me its too much around in circles starting a new game again and having to play a slow steady game over and over, cards sequencing over and over to the point where I am visualising the flop correctly after seeing my opponents hand having been here in this situation a thousand times before 80% of the time dont even need to watch the 5 cards come as I know by the first 3 what the runner runner Is going to do.

I try to not even pay attention to how the cards run out. I work on keeping my attention on the things I have some control over because the rest does not really matter. It seems like it does but it is a waste of time and headspace. I just work hard on trying to make the right decisions when I can.
 
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Really strange week, I've basically let my emotions get the better of me calling hands that I should be folding I know Im behind holding a low flush in one situation obvious he had the nut flush due to how he had played the turn, but I have to see it to prove that im right. Lol.

I went through maybe $70.00 yesterday which is pretty wreckless but Its been like a self destruction week.

I've just kind of clawed my cash back within one win of where I need to be and ended up bubbling the important game that would of let me relax and focus solely on just making good decisions emotionally unattached from the game,
Or I end up making a play that goes wrong either bad timing unfortunate spotting,

Maybe sit n gos aren't for me its too much around in circles starting a new game again and having to play a slow steady game over and over, cards sequencing over and over to the point where I am visualising the flop correctly after seeing my opponents hand having been here in this situation a thousand times before 80% of the time dont even need to watch the 5 cards come as I know by the first 3 what the runner runner Is going to do.

The most Ironic thing is as soon as I realise im close to going broke i'll play a 90 man $1 or $2.50 tournament and plough through the field with a huge edge, time and time again....
So I know Ive got the ability but its proving a problem for me long term... Like maybe once you win one or two 45/90 mans they take you 2 hours.. its a bit boring... and frustrating having to accumalate all those chips again
:rolleyes:

Rant over I guess :shakehand

well it looks like you have found your edge, if the 45/90 man sngs are working for you and you are making steady profit when playing them, then by all means play those and try to build a nice roll.

Ive been in plenty of situations where i know im beat but still pay them off it happens to the best of us, for example daniel negreanu does that all the time.

So i would stick with those 45/90 man sngs even if they are boring, like someone said poker is not always fun, good luck man!:)
 
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did it again last nite!! just on 1 hand though...

I raise to 500 with :ad4: :ks4:
get 2 callers

flop comes :kc4: :4c4: :6h4:

I bet 1000

2 callers

turn is a :6d4:

I bet 2,200

2 callers

river is a blank

I check, next guy bets 2,000 into 11,000. other guy calls.

I just KNOW for a fact that the bettor has a 6....probably A6, and the other guy has a King that I probably beat like KJ.....but I can't help it...it is so cheap to call and such a big pot and I do have TPTK.

So, I call and it was exactly as I thought. first guy has 67 suited second guy has KJ. My read is pretty much dead on and Woo Hoo....I'm second best in a big pot....


DOH! why can't you fold when you KNOW you're beat girlfriend??


edit: I know...it's a derail...sorry....
 
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Please dont be too hard on yourself. You are absolutely not alone with this issue lol! I did the exact same thing last night. After having done the same thing 2 times before! I spend literally the first half of my tournaments as chip leader. You click on lobby and there I am at #1 for almost an hour.
.......then it happens...I get bored and it's like my inner child wants to come out and play. He doesnt care that this is real money on the line or that it takes a certain level of discipline or self-control to see it through till the end. 'Inner child' just wants to see action, explore the unnecessary and costly curiosities of the other persons hand, and of course his all-time favorite, clicking buttons! Oh, and he just loves playing pots!!....lots of them. *groan*

Of course, I lost my chip lead and eventually all of my chips after the despair of screwing up and simply donked my chips off to whomever and logged off. Like someone else alluded to earlier in this thread, self-control is everything when playing these long and seemingly drawn out tourneys. Play with the end result in mind.

TLDR version: JUST FOLD. PERIOD.
You can see the darn thing for free and still keep your cash and place in the tournament! You dont need to call that mediocre midling hand just to see a flop that you know you cant win anyway because the range is not good enough. Just fold that thing sit back and enjoy the show.
 
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did it again last nite!! just on 1 hand though...

I raise to 500 with :ad4: :ks4:
get 2 callers

flop comes :kc4: :4c4: :6h4:

I bet 1000

2 callers

turn is a :6d4:

I bet 2,200

2 callers

river is a blank

I check, next guy bets 2,000 into 11,000. other guy calls.

I just KNOW for a fact that the bettor has a 6....probably A6, and the other guy has a King that I probably beat like KJ.....but I can't help it...it is so cheap to call and such a big pot and I do have TPTK.

So, I call and it was exactly as I thought. first guy has 67 suited second guy has KJ. My read is pretty much dead on and Woo Hoo....I'm second best in a big pot....


DOH! why can't you fold when you KNOW you're beat girlfriend??


edit: I know...it's a derail...sorry....


Lol, Jackie thats great that your reads were spot on big positive to take on board when you reading well post flop. on and your thinking what hands you beat and what range they could be holding.

There comes a point as a poker player when you've called off so many rivers and been right that it makes you think, you know what!! I know im probably right so I might aswell just fold here,
I know 9 times outta ten they arent bluffing in this spot and Im paying them off.

And like since any player in questions reading skills are at a level now where they can assess post flop play better than majority of the opponents at this level there will be endlesss opportunity's to get payed off and minimise losses in spots opponents are doing what we ourselves were once doing
(calling rivers) for one reason or another
 
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