Originally Posted by kanselau
how can you think this hand was played "exactly right'
you have a 2% chance of floping 2 pair , so the 8:1 odds are not enough , infact you would need 49:1 if you were calling for that reason
secondly hero hits top pair and then checks ? what is he hoping for?
calling is the exactly worst play here imo, it is the best way to bleed your stack to the point where you lose all fold equity or you bleed your stack to the point where a double up is meanigless because you will be still short stacked.
push > fold > call in that order best play imo
as played good fold
you've got implied odds as well
and while you dont have an 8 to 1 chance of making a winning hand, you do have a way better chance than 49:1, pairing the A is a winning hand more times than not there ... if hero is not SB, then i totally agree ... limping with A8o is stack bleeding behavior, but 8:1 price in the SB ... IMO ... i think it is a more than reasonable play when you factor everything in ... afterall we are talking 4% of his total stack ... when can you be short stacked and only have to put in 4% of your stack to see a flop when you are holding an A?? ... that is a bargain
reading it again, i realize now that the betting action occurred on the turn, not the flop ... i could see him checking the flop and maybe looking to check/shove, but he should have bet out on the turn with top pair and nobody betting the flop, so i withdraw that he played it exactly right
anyway, good debate ... ha, i cant play poker at work, but talking about it does hold me over