| This is a discussion on Any advice for building a bankroll on a small deposit? within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; I'm going to start playing in $2-$5 online sit-n-gos at Lock Poker on an initial deposit of about $25. I was wondering if it's possible ... |
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| Any advice for building a bankroll on a small deposit? I'm going to start playing in $2-$5 online sit-n-gos at Lock Poker on an initial deposit of about $25. I was wondering if it's possible to build a decent bankroll off of this ($200-$300 or so) with proper strategy and patience, and if so, can anyone offer advice in this regard to maximize my chance of securing my ROI? I learned a lot of my hold'em strategies from TurtleKnife on YouTube (Marty Smith), and practiced in play-money tournaments for three years now. I've won a 180-player sit n go and placed 55th in a 7000-player tournament, so I think I have at least a basic grasp of pro strategy (and I play very tight until the ITM stages) but I'm always up for advice from the pros. Thanks guys. |
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| Possible ? Sure but you are truly at the whim of variance in as much as one bad run along with the rake can break you fairly quick.If you don't mind reloading and play a sound game you will eventually run it up. (a good run initially will preclude any need to reload , just seems a likely event with such a small amount). Good luck. |
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| Yeah its possible. You need to be a bit lucky initially as 25$ is not enough for good bankroll management. As for the other question, pick the game you want to play and are good at, and play well. Good play is always awarded over time. Aint no real secret, just grind. |
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My strategy is pretty sound though. I think I'm what's known as a TAG player (tight-aggressive). |
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| you have a chance, but it will be complete luck. Not only do you need to be as good as you think you are (you might be), but you need good variance on top of that. Also play money does not equal real money. The play will be tougher (especially since we don't know the stakes you played on play money) My advice. Well first I would tell you to deposit more, but..... Go ahead, test the waters for real money, play this as an experiment. See how well you do, come back here for improvement,. Even the best need improvement (which, not to bring you down, your not the best) |
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| just save up? or play smaller. guessing that you've played sngs so you know what variance is like. one cooler/suckout/bad play and you've lost 1/5 of your roll. save up and deposit like $100 minimum and play the smallest games possible.. that way you won't go broke. (also use a deposit bonus/rakeback) |
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| The advice to start slightly smaller $1-2 level and see how you do is good advice. If you place ITM in three consecutive tourneys move up a level and repeat the process. This will reduce your variance until you have a stack size that you don't have to worry and teach you about how play changes from level to level. |
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| How much is your entire bankroll? This means all the money you are willing to use for poker no matter where it is (including still in your pocket), not just what you have on one site. To play at a given level, your roll should be at least 20 buyins. So for $5.50 games, at least $110. For $2.20s, at least $44. And note that 20x is a minimum, so 30x would be better. If all you have is $25, then your choices are limited to $1 buyins. |
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| Seems I do suck quite bad. I've blown $20 out of my $25 deposit, and now my dad is mad at me for even trying this (I'm 23, but I live at home since I'm in college, and he thinks someone is gonna steal all my money from my account now that I used it to make a deposit). Some were bad beats, some suckouts, some bad plays. All were learning experiences, but I feel like I'm getting nowhere, and this might not work out for me. Man... |
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Ban yourself from the tables for a month, read all the articles on this site on poker strategy. Then, when you feel you understand, and after the ban, log back in and deposit another 20. Play 1c/2c, no more, no less, and make sure not to budge an inch from those stakes until you're in profit. Post hand histories on this site; there are a lot of reg's who will give you pretty detailed analysis of where/when/how you went wrong. Also, a large part of the reason why you're losing is because you've only played play money before. Play money is godawful for learning real poker, case in point, play money: I'm up 3 million; real money, down £30.00 Last edited by doomasiggy : 26th March 2012 at 4:10 AM. |
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| Yeah, I'm gonna start posting some of my more questionable hands here and see what I'm doing wrong, where I can improve, etc. I think I'm being too aggressive in the early stages, so that's something to work on right there. Some of the players are nice and give me advice mid-game. And thanks for the advice. I've got $5 left on this deposit (I might deposit another $40 later after I've done more research), so I'm gonna try some 0.50c + 0.10c SnG's and see if I can grind this back up. Should I play 9-player SnG's or are 18's, 27's, and 45's okay too? |
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| re: Poker & Any advice for building a bankroll on a small deposit? If I lose this $5, I will definitely ban myself and research until my brain swells. But I'm taking your advice playing in some 0.60c SnG's tonight, and I'm actually finishing in the money on this one. Thanks for the suggestion, I was wondering what people meant by grind and variance, now I know. |
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| Thats too high for your bankroll, variance could wipe you out in a flash. Jim is right..10nl should be your max. Free money play is an indicator of nothing. You sound like you have the basics but so don't a zillion other players. Slow your roll dude...thats something my kid might say and he would be right. |
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doomasiggys advice was very helpful; I'm getting the hang of this now. |
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| Just follow good BRM and stay at the $1 or less range of SNGs until you are well over $100. On Merge you could play the $.60 Turbo or preferably the $1.08 DON SNG. Might want to avoid long shot tournaments. By all means don't feed a dead horse. Especially on that terrible poker network. |
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Also play as many freerolls as possible to get more experience After you double up your deposit and play close to 10K hands then you can look to step up and try higher-priced SnGs and tourneys This is how I play as well...it works if you have the patience and discipline...all these tools are necessary so when you fall into slumps you can get through the rough patches There's a ton of information and support here...use it Online poker has always been a different game from playing live, imo...joining this site has helped me a lot since I started playing online after a 5-6 year hiatus If I had today's experience years ago.....fuggedaboutit* Everyone has more or less been in your shoes, in fact I'm still running around in mine....you'll see my threads are quite similar to your questions as well, and there are plenty of other threads you can read to improve Godd Luck to you |
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And yeah, I'm playing all the freeroll tourneys I can. Usually 2 or 3 a day. |
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I would say stick with the lower stakes and enjoy having more buy-ins and greater protection against the variance that you will encounter. Its very likely that you will have some long runs of losing games, no matter how well you play. It helps a lot if you don't lose half your roll when that happens. I wish you luck |
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| Well, I won the first SnG this morning, but now I've had a string of losses, about 6 of them, all from bad beats. I'm getting really tilted at all the suckouts. Should I be calling/raising at all with marginal hands like AJ, KQ, etc, or should I just fold anything that's not a pocket pair? |
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I was trying to say he'd get better as he played real money. If you go straight from playing play money and move to real money, you lose, a lot, because you have no idea what you're doing. |
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| And I think I am getting better. I'm still taking some bad beats and making mistakes, but I'm learning the hard way what I did wrong and know better now. I'm still hovering around $12.50. Would I be okay adding in $0.30 tourneys into the mix? I think they're called quarter quickies. |
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| I have never deposited on any poker site except to qualify for cashout and I have won thousands. one April weekend I had a nickel on Intertops and in three days I won $1350. My advice to you is to play within your means and when your hot, don't stop playing till you cool down. If you don't cash in 3 in a row in a single day quit for the day. Patience patience patience P.S. raising with KJ early position will cost you money |
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| foxhound, with your small bankroll, i would suggest not to play any MTT's other than freerolls variance at SnG's can sometimes be tough, but variance at MTT's can be huge, you might go hundreds of tournies without a good cash even if your phil ivey stick to your 9 man SnG's only, that way your improving all the time, with less risk to your bankroll |
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| Well, that was interesting. I was down to my last $6 so I decided to just play one bigshot, a 6-man $5.50 SnG. Somehow I survived with my 55 against AA and caught runner-runner to make a straight, and ended up winning the thing. So I'm back to my starting bankroll of $25. So...what should I do? |
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Stick to the sng's as that is what you know best. Stick to low buy-ins, < $1 (imo preferably lower, Chris Ferguson may have used a 20 buy-in rule, but don't forget... He's Chris Ferguson!! Mere mortals who are just starting out need more buy-ins). As we have said, and you now know first hand, it is perfectly possible to have a losing streak even if you have been winning, so you need the buffer of reserve buy-ins. Play one table at a time, (don't play any if you are tired or unable to concentrate), concentrate on the game—no distractions, and watch how your opponents are playing even when you are not involved in a hand. Play good hands from late positions, and then go from there as you learn more about your opponents. BRM is the most important thing. If you get down to $6 again, play 10c games if you can find them on Lock. You don't need a fast profit at this stage, you need practice to improve your understanding of the game. Only if you have the money to play, can you keep practicing and improving. Good Luck Last edited by Samango : 29th March 2012 at 11:12 PM. |
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