Which are the worse starting trap hands?

#1 17th December 2011, 12:55 AM

Which hands do you feel are the potential the worse to play?
Talking about a full ring game.
Trap Hands:mine are K9 Q8 J7 10 6 just cause they can be trap to a higher straight. Also A2-5 can also be trapped to higher kicker or higher straight.
I rather play 7 2 then those the above hands

#2 17th December 2011, 1:17 AM

You really prefer 72 to A2?

And why would u play J7 or Q8? Utter trash hands. I would only play them from the btn if I thought I could steal the blinds easily.

For me the worst is prob something like AJ, looks very nice but u can get outkicked easily

#3 17th December 2011, 1:23 AM

what do you mean by trap hands?

#4 17th December 2011, 1:51 AM

You would rather play 2 7 then K9?

#5 17th December 2011, 1:52 AM

all those hands suck, 87s is better than anyone of them PF.

#6 17th December 2011, 6:38 AM

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Originally Posted by coodgunt

You would rather play 2 7 then K9?

If the pot was limped I wouldnt play either except if i was in the BB and hope I dont hit on the flop so I can throw it away.
However there was no one in the pot and I was the button or BB i rather play 2 7 to steal the blind or resteal if dealer open a lot of pots. If I get called then I rather pair 2 or 7 than a K and be outkicked

#7 17th December 2011, 6:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PotluckXXI

all those hands suck, 87s is better than anyone of them PF.

absolutely that's why I consider them trap hands....I rather play 87s too

#8 17th December 2011, 6:51 AM

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Originally Posted by micromachine

You really prefer 72 to A2?

And why would u play J7 or Q8? Utter trash hands. I would only play them from the btn if I thought I could steal the blinds easily.

For me the worst is prob something like AJ, looks very nice but u can get outkicked easily

I would not play J7 Q8 they are trash hands
I like AJ in the 6max tables.
AJ can be a problem hand in a FR table.

#9 17th December 2011, 6:52 AM

You should play none of those hands unless you find yourself in a situation that warrants it, which rarely ever comes up.

You must not like making money.

#10 17th December 2011, 6:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PotluckXXI

all those hands suck, 87s is better than anyone of them PF.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.512% 34.98% 01.53% 71876664 3146136.00 { 87s }
Hand 1: 63.488% 61.96% 01.53% 127307544 3146136.00 { K9o, Q8o, J7o }

#11 17th December 2011, 7:13 AM

The concept of trap hands is so 2003.

#12 17th December 2011, 7:58 AM

oh wow good question, lol, well let me start 7---9 or A 4....10---7 umm there is so many, or what about 5---8 lol but it dont matterthe all suck and get u trap any ways,, the donks always land the best hand when u know u have something better tn them

#13 18th December 2011, 5:13 PM

Trap hands are very relevant to the type of game to.
Holdem games I see a lot of higher straights trap lower straights, occasionally see higher flushes trap lower flushes.
In omaha I see more higher full house trap lower full house or quads trap full house not sp much in holdem

#14 18th December 2011, 6:37 PM

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Originally Posted by baudib1

The concept of trap hands is so 2003.

Yes just 3700 more posts and years to catch up

#15 18th December 2011, 6:53 PM

Take a look at a good starting hand chart to give you a basic idea of what to start with in what position. This will obviously need to be modified based on the table, but it's a good start for beginners. Leak Buster has a good one, and you can get it in the free trial. There are others available, but I found this one to be pretty solid.

#16 18th December 2011, 6:58 PM

Yesterday my worst hands were in this order..... K,K 3 times and A,A twice.

#17 18th December 2011, 7:02 PM

IMO the only thing that makes these trap hands is if they are played , however the only trap being set is upon the person playing them thinking they can get a positive outcome on a consistent basis.

#18 18th December 2011, 7:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sCATpoker

IMO the only thing that makes these trap hands is if they are played , however the only trap being set is upon the person playing them thinking they can get a positive outcome on a consistent basis.

I think that's why he called them trap hands-hands to get trapped by vs hands to trap with.

#19 19th December 2011, 1:59 PM

The idea of a trap hand is really relative to your opponents range. Versus a 9/7 KJo is definitely a trap hand (likely to be dominated versus his range). Versus a 60/40 however we might be dominating him.

#20 19th December 2011, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by natsgrampy

Yesterday my worst hands were in this order..... K,K 3 times and A,A twice.

I was playing in a loose live game and playing AQ and hit a A hi straight while the other player I was in played Q 9 also hit straight K hi We both got all stacks in. That what I mean about trap hands. AA KK are hands that can be cracked rather than trap meaning they look good preflop rarely get better I think it
can not get trapped with the community cards.

#21 19th December 2011, 10:30 PM

Any hand can make the second nuts, worrying about having the second nuts losing to the nuts isn't going to help you.

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