Winnings Threshold????

#1 23rd October 2008, 8:11 PM

I play on UB and usually play the .05/.10 cash tables and I'm having a problem breaking $15.00 on a table. I buy in for $5 usually and I can get the money up to ~15.00 but can't break through. And it seems like once I get there the money just starts to dwindle away back to ~10.00. I have paid attention to the way I play once I get over $10 and I really don't see much of a change.

Should I leave the table and bank my profits when I hit $15 or is this just psychological?

#2 23rd October 2008, 8:14 PM

Why are you buying in for $5 ? you should be buying in for the full amount. It strikes me that even if you don't realise it you are protecting your profit once you reach a certain level and not playing aggressively enough.

#3 23rd October 2008, 8:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tenbob

Why are you buying in for $5 ? you should be buying in for the full amount. It strikes me that even if you don't realise it you are protecting your profit once you reach a certain level and not playing aggressively enough.

All of this basically. I used to have something similar immediately after I moved from $1/2NL to $2/5NL. I'd get up to like $800 from my original $500, then just slowly bleed it back for a while, then back up to $800, etc . . . Which is really odd, because I'd routinely have $1000+ on the table at the $1/2 and have no problems. I dunno what to tell you to do, other than just keep playing until (as horrible as this sounds) the money is meaningless to you. Maybe try a step down in stakes if possible where you're playing and see if you can build some confidence for a while.

#4 23rd October 2008, 8:41 PM

could be a couple things.
1) you are tightening up to protect your profits. it's much easier to push with a small stack because you have a small expectation of losing. but when you triple up the ammount you bought in for, you either get too tight or too loose. sounds like you are playing tight.
2) depending on how long it is taking you to get to $15, the table could have a good read on you by that time because you are not varying your play. if that is the case, you might as well walk away and look for a new table.
either way, it is no longer a profitable situation if you cannot earn any more money at your current table. i'd look for a new game.

#5 23rd October 2008, 8:47 PM

I know you're probably right about protecting my money too much, but I really don't see it. I've been trying to stick to a plan and it's working, but just can't break the barrier. I'm gonna record one of my sessions today and see if I can spot something. I may put it on here and see if you might be able to do the same.

And, tenbob, the reason I only buy in for half is the same problem I'm having here. This has been going on for a while now and it's bothering me. It just seems more profitable to buy in for $5 and profit $10 than to buy in for $10 and profit $5.

#6 23rd October 2008, 8:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilGenius

could be a couple things.
1) you are tightening up to protect your profits. it's much easier to push with a small stack because you have a small expectation of losing. but when you triple up the ammount you bought in for, you either get too tight or too loose. sounds like you are playing tight.
2) depending on how long it is taking you to get to $15, the table could have a good read on you by that time because you are not varying your play. if that is the case, you might as well walk away and look for a new table.
either way, it is no longer a profitable situation if you cannot earn any more money at your current table. i'd look for a new game.

Well, the play on UB sucks, so I'm up 2 of my buy ins rather quickly. I would say ~60-85 hands. I try not to sit at a table too long with more than one reg in it, but that's hard to do there. And I'm guessing that, most of the time, the non-regs don't spot anything other than their own cards. If I notice someone playing back on me a lot in c-betting situations or steal situations I mark them as having a possible read on me.

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