What/when to bet?

I would like someone to tell me what and when they think I should have bet in this hand, as I would obviouslly like to get a lot more out of it than I did. Unfortuanltly, the way that I played it I figured that if I checked at least someone would bet allowing me to raise them....but that didn't happen. So should I have bet the turn....the river...both? And how much would you bet?


PokerStars Game #19387109635: Tournament #100321653, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/08/05 - 17:17:35 (ET)
Table '100321653 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: assi76 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: giselle.b.12 (1420 in chips)
Seat 3: hesitepAS:-) (1480 in chips)
Seat 4: chipchart (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: rayhrpr (1620 in chips)
Seat 6: rndjour (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Maseratias (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: mex1965 (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: myfidel (1500 in chips)
hesitepAS:-): posts small blind 10
chipchart: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to chipchart [3h 3d]
rayhrpr: folds
rndjour: folds
Maseratias: calls 20
mex1965: calls 20
myfidel: calls 20
assi76: calls 20
giselle.b.12: calls 20
hesitepAS:-): calls 10
chipchart: checks
*** FLOP *** [6h 4d 4c]
hesitepAS:-): checks
chipchart: checks
Maseratias: checks
mex1965: checks
myfidel: checks
assi76: checks
giselle.b.12: checks
*** TURN *** [6h 4d 4c] 3♣
hesitepAS:-): checks
chipchart: checks
Maseratias: checks
mex1965: checks
myfidel: checks
assi76: checks
giselle.b.12: checks
*** RIVER *** [6h 4d 4c 3c] 8♥
hesitepAS:-): checks
chipchart: checks
Maseratias: checks
mex1965: checks
myfidel: checks
assi76: checks
giselle.b.12: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hesitepAS:-): shows [Th As] (a pair of Fours)
chipchart: shows [3h 3d] (a full house, Threes full of Fours)
Maseratias: mucks hand
mex1965: mucks hand
myfidel: mucks hand
assi76: mucks hand
giselle.b.12: mucks hand
chipchart collected 140 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 140 | Rake 0
Board [6h 4d 4c 3c 8h]
Seat 1: assi76 mucked [Js Kd]
Seat 2: giselle.b.12 (button) mucked [Ah 7c]
Seat 3: hesitepAS:-) (small blind) showed [Th As] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 4: chipchart (big blind) showed [3h 3d] and won (140) with a full house, Threes full of Fours
Seat 5: rayhrpr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: rndjour folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Maseratias mucked [Qc Jd]
Seat 8: mex1965 mucked [Tc Kc]
Seat 9: myfidel mucked [Qs 9c]



P.S: If this is in the wrong forum please move it and tell me where I should have put it, thanks!

yes i would have said bet small on the turn too but it depends on that dude u were playing with whether or not he would have called any bet there

yea i would of bet small on turn and then prolly around 3/4 of the pot on the river

I was curious about similar plays thanks for the info. and the post

On the flop, if you get any action, it is likely you could be beat, not always, but often enough to count. You might have min bet the flop, turn and river hoping someone would at least call, but if there was no action on the flop, then nobody is wanting to even bluff at this hand.

Under other circumstances you would post this in the tourney section, but this is a pretty basic concept so posting it here is not a bad thing at all.

You were the first to call so...check permit that other guys without hands received a strong card at the turn or river, for me is better put 2x the pot maybe one or two players with a possible hands call you....

If your were at the last position and receive at call "the pot" at the turn, maybe will be interesting only call, because the guys could thing that has the best hand str8.

Small bet on the flop to see who's really in the pot. At the turn you had it pretty well locked up so again a smallish bet, maybe 1/3 pot. And if it gets as far as the river, value bet it for what ever you think you can get.

During early blind levels in a micro-stakes tournament, getting callers is not difficult. People will gladly call off 3/4 pot here on the turn with any pair, draw, or even 2 overcards.

Nothing wrong with checking the flop, but after everyone checked, I think you have to put money in on the turn, even out of position. If you only get 1 caller who folds to your river bet, you still earn some chips.

Thanks a lot for the replies, I appreciate the info and now I will know what is the smarter play next time. Gl on the felts everyone.