what to do in small blind

#1 19th November 2011, 4:22 AM

hey i was wondering whats the best thing to do wen you get KKs in small blind and you have like 4 callers should you go all in, raise some if so how much, or just call n see what happens. i went all in just to try to push them out by the way but i had an AK call me and he hit an A on the river. we both had like 7000 in chips too. but for refernce just wonderin the best thing to do

#2 19th November 2011, 5:32 AM

All depends on the situation. What were the blinds? If they are 10/20 and you have 7k and push then you're stupid, if the blinds are 250/500 then you're making a solid play. You gave way too little information for your situation. No matter what you should be raising, how much is completely dependent on what the blinds are.

As far as getting called by AK and him hitting the A on the river, that is irrelevant to the play you made, it's just the way the cards came, you got your money in as a huge favorite.

#3 19th November 2011, 9:15 AM

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Originally Posted by absoluthamm

If they are 10/20 and you have 7k and push then you're stupid,
but maybe not.... he did after all get a guy to call him???

As far as getting called by AK and him hitting the A on the river, that is irrelevant to the play you made, it's just the way the cards came, you got your money in as a huge favorite.

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#4 19th November 2011, 5:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Poker Orifice

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Lol, true, but you know what I mean, in the long run you are losing a shit ton of value.

#5 19th November 2011, 8:16 PM

Yeah like Hamm said it's pretty much a situational thing. You would want to at least raise enough to get the ATC players to fold being that they may put you in a bad spot by the limp.

#6 19th November 2011, 10:57 PM

why would you want to push people out when you have KK?

#7 20th November 2011, 2:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bgomez89

why would you want to push people out when you have KK?

I knew you were coming with this one! Dont push everyone out but.....would you want multiple people in? Standard play is to raise and reraise with KK and by doing this do you expect everyone to follow? Why do we raise/reraise? Do we limp or slowplay and have to check/fold the flop because the A hit? Do we want to go broke by ATC? Let everyone see a cheap flop and I guarantee you find the A/rag. The hand is just to vulnerable to play around with, you want to gain from it not go broke.

#8 20th November 2011, 2:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bgomez89

why would you want to push people out when you have KK?

Because we're probably going to end up in a pretty shit position if we let multiple limpers into the pot

#9 20th November 2011, 3:57 AM

Let me rephrase it. Why would your reason for shoving preflop be "to push people out"

You guys do realize we want calls when we have a good hand right? I would have no problem with this hand of OP had stated, "even though everyone just limped, they've been making loose calls all night and I suspected I could get one or even two of them to call if I shove, this getting great value"

#10 20th November 2011, 10:09 PM

yea the blinds were like 250/500 i had 4 callers so i figure maybe i raise and take the blinds. and yea well i was just hoping i dont lose to an ace/7 or something cuz alotta players keep callin wit an Ace anything. and like i guess i felt everytime i get pocket kks somebody jumps in and hits to lame pairs on me or something. either i go all in. or raise some and go all in on the flop if nothing comes out. i guess you guys are right its kinda situational

#11 20th November 2011, 10:10 PM

am i not suppose to push people out tho. iget so many bad beats it gets rough sometimes

#12 20th November 2011, 10:22 PM

You, me and Bobby Bellande are always gonna get aced on this river. ..

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#13 21st November 2011, 1:55 AM

Smoke, did you know that kk beats A anything like 80+% of the time?

#14 21st November 2011, 2:04 AM

you made the right move there i think, blinds are high, but not that high though so it wouldn't have been a bad move to just raise it either. you just got unlucky the ace hit, it sucks but it happens!

#15 21st November 2011, 7:09 AM

ok not 80% but close

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,890,383,616 games 4.497 secs 420,365,491 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.265% 70.05% 00.22% 1324189656 4083126.00 { KK }
Hand 1: 29.735% 29.52% 00.22% 558027708 4083126.00 { A2s+, A2o+ }

70% of the time you win, 30% of the time you lose. Don't let the times you lose make you scared

#16 21st November 2011, 7:13 AM

There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics.~ Mark Twain

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