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Could someone tell me how t o play pockettens in any position. Seems I get beat whether I check call or raise. Leading out with them is always not to my advantage it seems thanks

Mid raise them in early position because of someone reraises you wont give up a lot of your stack. If it gets checked to you on big blind, just check and see some action.

I agree. I personally don't find myself every being able to really play TT well.
Typically I will give a modest raise if I'm in position. Otherwise I limp in and hope to make my set.

If you are not confortable playing TT from early position just treat it like any small pocket pair. Limp or fold.

From middle or late position treat it like a monster.

Never limp with pocket tens. That's criminal. Limping lets people with junk see a cheap flop and that's when people come on here whining that there 10's were cracked by someone with a random 6 4 off suit or whatever.

10's are a very strong hand and should be played as such. Raise. The key is how you play post flop. If over cards fall and someone is going crazy you are probably way behind. If you get the pot heads up on the flop and the board is something like 7 2 A rainbow, fire a continuation bet. You'll take it down most of the time.

Remember even when you are a favorite it isn't a gauranteed win. If you are an 80/20 favorite, well, that still means that 20% of the time you will lose but that doesn't mean that you don't push your edge. In the long run you are going to win most of your money with big cards. Pocket 10's aren't aces but they are a big pair and should be played as such.

Someone with more experience and more writing skill can probably explain this better than me but please for the love of God don't limp pocket tens and don't play scared with them.

Good luck.

I do not agree. From early position TT is not a verry strong hand. It is just an marginal hand. You are just slightely favourite at HU against any 2 overcards.
Problem with TT is that you can loose a lot of money with it unimproved. From this point of view any smaller pocket pair is easyer to fold with and save money. Suppose you are in early position, 3 bet, and the someone from MP and the Button calls. Flop is Q 9 3. You raise , Mp folds Button calls. Turn is an K or A. What do you do now? Check of course for pot control because he can have anything. He raises half of the pot feeling you are weak. You have to fold.
Same with the JJ. In a multiway pot that happens a lot at smallstakes TT is just a marginal hand and if you do not hit a set you are just an underdog.
Same thing with JJ. Your problem is a multiway pot.

JJ or TT at smallstakes should be treated like regular pocket pairs at smallstakes in multiway pots because you can loose much more money with TT than with a smaller pair. It is easy for somone to fold 87, 49 but it will be hard for you to fold TT if an overcard comes. And playing from early position can bring you a bunch of callers and one of them will hit the board.

I appreciate the detailed reply. I have to disagree with you though. Your assumption is that I am going to spew post flop. This is not the case. In my original reply I emphasized that you have to play the hand well post flop (as is true of any hand.) Obviously if the flop comes out dangerous adjust accordingly. The key points are that there are only 4 sets of overcards (and even then you could flop a draw to a straight) and by raising instead of limping you should be able to knock out a most other players and play the pot HU.

Run it on poker stove. With pocket tens you are going to be way ahead of most of the micro fishes ranges. Also, in general you should never open limp. 10's are way too good to fold obviously and limping is just inviting a bad beat from some fish that you let see a cheap flop with some random cards that hit.

For what its worth even the most nit worthy starting hand guide will recommend opening pocket pairs down to 7's UTG. You've got to raise 10's just use common sense on the flop.

Your concern about multiway pots is noted but 1. raise and they won't be multiway as often. 2. if it is multiway and I am out of position and the flop comes wet there is certainly no law that says I have to c-bet mindlessly. Most of the time though I wil be ahead of the fish.

you gotta be kidding.

read this http://www.cardschat.com/showpost1601336-post7.html but replace JJ with TT

I was only talking about early position. At MP or better i too agree TT is a monster if nobody from UTGs raised already.
1. How much should i raise with TT from early position at micros so i'll be sure i'll shake them down but at the same time to not scare all of them away?
2. How do i deal in a multiway pot with an overcard on the board with 4 callers.
I only have a problem with early position where usualy at smallstakes you find yourself with 4-5 callers if you make a standard raise. And i'll say it again. You can loose more money with TT or JJ from early position than with a smaller pair because TT or JJ are harder to fold.

Hellmuth says open with as low as 9/9.

In ring games I always open with it.

I usually open with it in tournaments.

If someone opens with it in early position, and stacks are deep, I call for set value.

If I'm in a blind and someone in late position opens with it they are likely to be stealing so I 3-bet them to win the chips now as T/T is hard to play out of position post-flop.

From early mid position I usually min raise or sometimes 2.5 x raise with pocket 10's. The intent being to get rid of the limpers and hope that you either get 1 caller or else steal the blinds. From late position I will usually increase the rasie to 3 or 3.5 BB's. As with any hand it is what happens after the flop that really matters and every hand is different.

Just as i said. raise 2.5BB from early position at low stackes and i am sure you will have lots of callers.

They play random hands but not that random as pokerstove does. And one overcard is a problem but not just that. Sets, 2 pairs, flash draws, streight draws etc etc are the hands that you should really be afraid.

In late position is the villain has it or nor. If he calls and it is just an overcard and the flop is rainbow you can bet hard and see what happens but most of the time you scare the oponnet. If he calls or reraise than it is a problem. If he's TAG you should think to quit , if he's not and he bluffs a lot it is a problem again. He can have absolutely anything from nothing to have you beat.

At high stackes if you are TAG probabely you will know for sure if you are beat with Tens from any position but i never played there so i am not sure