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so playin tight agressive means playin with the best hands and playin them strong but how do we switch it up do you guys know wat i mean? like wen your not hitting your cards n players know your raising with Ak AQ and if nothing comes on the flop they call you down or raise you. because they kno you dint catch. cuz you been playing at the table showin nothing but good hands. do u open up ur hand range? is there another way of playin tag?

If you play better cards than your opponents and play them more aggressively then you will win, this is virtually a mathematical fact.

If you're "not hitting your cards" you are experiencing short-term variance which means nothing.
For the most part, people are not going to play back at you with air if they perceive you have a strong range and that implies that they are perceiving that you have a range at all, which I assure you is not always the case.

If you determine that the frequency at which people are playing back at you is abnormally high over a period of time they either perceive that you are weak-tight and will fold huge portions of your range or they are just spewtards and you can continue with a wider range, including sometimes A-high.

thanks for the reply i will take that into consideration. i mite just be in a little rut. like you said. or i feel like im doin too much of the same thing where it becomes standard play

At micro-stakes, you can assume people are from the "I play my cards" school until they demonstrate otherwise. That won't happen very often since even a fair number of the regs are at this level of thinking. And some who understand the concept intellectually don't apply it well or often enough in their actual play.

Hand#2840015975000158 - Rome (6-max, shallow) 15975 -- $0.02/$0.04 NL Hold'em -- 2012/01/14 - 07:37:56
Dealer: Seat 1
Seat 1: Xaxoxixi ($2.20 in chips)
Seat 3: atze1000 ($1.75 in chips)
Seat 8: transamerica ($4.84 in chips)
Seat 9: Cashouter1 ($2.38 in chips)
Seat 10: Stoneyman ($5.66 in chips)
atze1000: posts big blind $0.04
Dealt to Stoneyman [Qs,Ah]
transamerica: calls $0.04
Cashouter1: folds
Stoneyman: raises to $0.16
Xaxoxixi: folds
atze1000: folds
transamerica: calls $0.12
*** FLOP *** [9d,2h,Tc]
transamerica: bets $0.24
Stoneyman: folds
transamerica: returns uncalled bet $0.24
***SHOW DOWN***
transamerica: mucks
transamerica wins $0.34

this start to happen after awhile at the same table. am i being bluffed? or was my bet too small in the first place? like they know my pattern or something. should i of called? really dont think he had it but i could be wrong and i was right a few times where i raised back n he folded but sometimes he actually had it

oh yea and im cheap leader :-p

VERY "insightful" poker wisdom ... thanks, Wally

Try opening up your range a bit - but only in late position. This is an extreme example but ... I am extremely TAG (especially T) - but I am prone every hour or so to play ATC from the button. At one very conservative table (lots of limping) I called with 72 and low and behold the flop came 772. To make a long story short I didn't go crazy - I wanted this hand to go to showdown - it did and there are still a handful of guys who were in that hand that are convinced I am a donkiac and are just never sure what I might be holding. It didn't hurt that there was another hand at that table where I went in w 35 and got an A24 rainbow flop.

If you are not already playing them - start this exercise with suited connectors. Only late position.

I tend to just polarise my range if people play back at me too much. Although it often results in me leveling myself and 5-bet shoving with 56s.

Generally though people are simple players at micros and have no idea if you've been pushed out of alot of pots recently. If you seem to be being raised alot at one table it's probably just a coincidence rather than players trying to exploit you.

If you had more solid info I'd say you can raise him here with a polarized range weighted toward air and flat with your good equity hands (overpairs, Tx, QJ, KQ, KJ) but it doesn't seem like you are using a HUD and are probably dealing with a small sample size.

As a default, folding flop here is pretty good/standard, T9x hits a lot of limp-calling ranges pretty hard and you'll probably have to hit to win the pot.

1. Don't change it up.
2. No one notices nor thinks about what your range is.
3. Keep playing TAG

Not sure what this ^ means? You're on a cash table... right? (not 'tournament')

Awww Come on PO, you know he means he's the big stack at the table! Cut him some slack! lol

[^^ There it is.

Embrace the boredom.


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yea it is a cash game :-)... thanks for the reply guys ill keep at it.

keeping playing TAG, sometimes Media's LAG at the button or latter position can be good as others perceive tight cards when you could have anything in postion can be very valuble especially when theres passive calling player and you hit a monster like the 72 that Media example.
I dont like playing passive that's a sure way to lose chips IMO. keep pounding and cbet when HU after the flop. If they float and you hit nothin on the turn then release.With the floaters I like to widen my range and be a bit more LAG.
The bothersome ones are the c/r on the flop , here they know you are agressive and expect a bet so they can c/r .....playback at you by being more agressive is far more difficult to counteract.....I think here ....you have to tighten up and really play extreme TAG and be really to reraise a habitual c/r

they call you down or raise you. because they kno you dint catch. cuz you been playing at the table showin nothing but good hands.

Why are u showing the hands anyway? Unless u mean when it goes to a showdown.

yes wen it goes to show down

DISCLAIMER - don't do what I am suggesting if you cannot throw away your hand when it partially hits or someone comes over the top.
If I limp in on the button w 72 and the BB min-raises then I am gone.
If the flop comes 974 then I am gone to any kind of raise.
You need to know that by playing these cards you are more likely to get in big trouble than anything so generally speaking you just fold - just every now and then take a shot. Just two days ago came in with 24o and flopped a straight draw - called C bet (knew it was a c-bet) and the turn completed a wheel with an A. Perfect - he had a big A w AQ and decided to shove thinking his Q out kicked my A because "there was no way this TAG player (me) was in the hand w 24, nor would he limp with AK so I must be good." He shoved.
Again, I do not do this but maybe once an hour - more like once a session and I am going to run away 95% of the time. But it is profitable in the long run if you can pull it off with cold blooded smarts and not get emotionally involved (stacking off preflop with suited connectors).