straight vs flush

#1 23rd April 2010, 4:59 AM

i dont understand why a flush is higher than a straight when a straight you need a ccertain 5 cards but in the other hand a flush you could use any of the 13 same suit cards. what is your opinion?

#2 23rd April 2010, 5:32 AM

You have more card combinations to make a straight, since they do not have to be of the same suit. You have only 13 outs to make any flush. That is why a flush is higher in value.

#3 23rd April 2010, 6:52 AM

Look at it this way...

You hold 89h.

The cards that can help you make a straight are:
7777TTTT6666JJJJ5555QQQQ

But the cards that help you make a flush are:
A234567TJQK of hearts only.

In a large sample of hands where 7 cards are dealt ( like in a hand of holdem or stud) you will see 2 flushes for every three straights more or less.

That said.. counter intuitively after a flop a hand with 4 to a straight has a slightly worse chance of seeing the straight than 4 to a flush has of seeing a flush. (8 outs vs. 9)

#4 23rd April 2010, 9:52 AM

just the way it is as said way more options too hit str8 than flush usually u get paid off more with flush also . so gl at the tables and welcome to cards chat

#5 23rd April 2010, 2:39 PM

I agree that when I first started playing, it seemed counterintuitive to me that a straight was more likely than a flush. But it be true

#6 24th April 2010, 2:08 AM

Have to believe you....as said before

Flop a straight draw = 8outs
Flop a flush draw = 9outs

#7 26th April 2010, 9:38 PM

I was the same way when I first started out....(I thought a straight beat a flush when I first started playing poker) But I guess that you can get a straight easyer then a flush

#8 27th April 2010, 2:16 PM

I used to think the same thing as the OP. Straights *seemed* like they'd be harder to get than flushes, but that's not the case.

If you do the math there are:
1,098,240 ways to make one pair
123,552 ways to make two pair
54,912 ways to make three of a kind
10,200 ways to make a straight
5,108 ways to make a flush
3,744 ways to make a full house
624 to make four of a kind
36 ways to make a straight flush
4 ways to make a royal flush

I like how cAPSLOCK puts it:

Quote:

Originally Posted by cAPSLOCK

Look at it this way...

You hold 89h.

The cards that can help you make a straight are:
7777TTTT6666JJJJ5555QQQQ

But the cards that help you make a flush are:
A234567TJQK of hearts only.

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