small pockets

#1 2nd December 2011, 5:50 AM

how are we suppose to play small pockets? do you play them differntly in tourneys and cash games. do you raise them at the button if its an unopened pot? or should they just be folded?

#2 2nd December 2011, 8:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeme

how are we suppose to play small pockets? < it depends. do you play them differntly in tourneys and cash games < yes. do you raise them at the button if its an unopened pot? < yes or should they just be folded? < no

If you're more specific you'll get a more detailed answer. If you just want the 'password', maybe post in other threads instead of starting new ones (just sayin'...)

#3 2nd December 2011, 3:43 PM

oh im sorry ill stop. just dint know where to ask.
and no i just dont want the password. im tryn to learn sorry.

#4 2nd December 2011, 5:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeme

oh im sorry ill stop. just dint know where to ask.
and no i just dont want the password. im tryn to learn sorry.

Not a problem. But you have to remember that all things in poker are situational. Whenever you ask a general question you will get "it depends" as an answer because there are so many variables involved in each situation that it is impossible to give an answer that will be proper for everything.

Maybe asking: How do I play a small pp in early position in a $1 sng on the bubble where I have 11bb and the rest of the players have 8-25bb. The Chip leader is next to act and the short stack is on the button.

Now asking a question like that will get you a more specific answer that will be more helpful to you next time you find yourself in that situation.

Keep it up though, asking questions like this is how you'll learn. Just remember that the more info you include in the question, the better an answer we will be able to give you.

#5 2nd December 2011, 8:58 PM

^^
To continue on what kaahk said are you currently playing online poker?
If you are you can post the hand history in the correct HA sections here either tourny's or cash.Then you can ask the questions you have about the hand.It is way more effective.Once you have the text form of the HH you use a coverter i use this one http://www.handconverter.com/ You copy you HH paste it in the box to the left.Then you click on covert,then copy the output on the right sight.Come here ask your question\questions then paste it.

#6 3rd December 2011, 5:56 PM

hey thanks ikno im new and my questions are kinda general cuz im not used to the game yet. but thanks for the advice. and with the handcoverter thats cool i just realize what it is lol. i dint kno you can get your hand history on the site i thot you guys were typing it all along. lol ok cool. and yea i am playin onine at intertops.
i have a question about this hand i tried using the handcoverter but iono if usng it right so ima paste it here
Hand#2798011983000248 - Rome (Turbo 6-max) 11983 -- $0.02/$0.04 NL Hold'em -- 2011/12/02 - 18:40:52
Dealer: Seat 2
Seat 1: jman653 ($5.10 in chips)
Seat 2: duwopper ($2.58 in chips)
Seat 3: Triton300 ($3.96 in chips)
Seat 8: Razin ($5.25 in chips)
Seat 9: Stoneyman ($0.82 in chips)
Seat 10: CAPTAINBAMA ($2.66 in chips)
Triton300: posts small blind $0.02
Razin: posts big blind $0.04
Dealt to Stoneyman [6s,As]
Stoneyman: calls $0.04
CAPTAINBAMA: folds
jman653: folds
duwopper: raises to $0.08
Triton300: folds
Razin: folds
Stoneyman: calls $0.04
*** FLOP *** [7d,6c,2s]
Stoneyman: checks
duwopper: bets $0.12
Stoneyman: raises to $0.32
duwopper: is all in $2.38
Stoneyman: is all in $0.42
duwopper: returns uncalled bet $1.76
duwopper: shows [Kc Jd]
Stoneyman: shows [6s As]
*** TURN *** K♥
*** RIVER *** 3♠
***SHOW DOWN***
duwopper wins $1.59 with Pair of Kings
so basicly i had A6 suited i think after big blind. i knew the dood at the button had two over cards. and i flopped a 6 on the flop where all the cards are low. i knew i had hiim beat. so i check raised him. but he still called me and caught a K. iono just wondering how to play this hand. and what i did wrong.

#7 3rd December 2011, 5:57 PM

oh and my sn is stoneyman

#8 3rd December 2011, 7:31 PM

It always depends.

Ax suited is only playable in certain situations. Against beginners who will pay you off if you hit a flush, basically, or on the button when everyone else has folded you can raise 3x and either steal the blinds or play a hand in position.

But you're not looking to pair the six or even the Ace, you're looking for the flush or an odd two pair on the flop, or to continuation bet the flop and take it down if you raised preflop.

In this specific case, if you're sure your opponent is doing this with over cards you're fine. Put this into PokerStove and you're an 80/20 favorite so you've got nothing to worry about at that point. One of those 20% of times happened.

But generally don't be playing Ax suited unless it's a multiway limped pot preflop and you have position, or, you raise in position. It'll cost you more than it earns.

#9 3rd December 2011, 8:05 PM

With a 20bb SS... fold pre.

#10 3rd December 2011, 11:02 PM

oh yea huh i wasnt thinkin of position i guess. it was Ax suited so i thot i see the flop. but i had a good read on the other guy i think..so wen i hit the 6 i was pretty sure he dint have anythin. but den again i guess i trapped myself since people dont fold in this game..

#11 3rd December 2011, 11:04 PM

hey PO does the FTP WSOP Contest mean you won that? niice

#12 4th December 2011, 5:28 AM

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Originally Posted by smokeme

hey PO does the FTP WSOP Contest mean you won that? niice

nah. Fulltilt shutdown prior to honouring the Contest... but just prior to I was sitting in 21st overall (all events except for MainEvent).
... won a few FTP hats a bunch of freeroll entries & qualified for an entry to a freeroll to WSOP MnEv.2012 (but it never happend.. )

#13 7th December 2011, 1:40 AM

hey guys wat to do in this situation..
i limped in wit k7 in big bllind..with 4 limpers in..and flop comes 7 4 2 off suit..what do i do? i kno its not a hand im suppose to play but i hit top pair what should i do? blinds are 50-100 everyone got like 2500-3k

#14 7th December 2011, 2:23 AM

Probe bet? IDK tough hand Tp2k it's good to bet but with 4 callers says "overpair" on one trying to trap. Last time I had similar hand had K4 paired 4's on flop (middle pair) with one caller, bet flop, called, turn dead card bet, call, K on river bet big call, lost to set of 4's. These low pair hands are most expensive in cash games, tourny is little different. Still think it's a real problem hand, and T or better on turn or river and you are WB (with exception of K, but you saw my problem). You are way OP anyways, let it go.

#15 7th December 2011, 3:04 AM

yea i hate these situations when i dont bet they bet and if i fold and they open up wit Ace high it hurts alittle..but i think you gotta atleast bet a little right? or no. iono my head hurts..i kno ill end up losing the hand most of the time tho.

#16 11th December 2011, 6:41 AM

yea its rough..lol what about this hand guys game is .5/.10 6max
and i got bout 2bucks..the others got like 5 bucks
i got A9 in small blind..2 limpers
flop comes 999 should i bet or just check ?

#17 11th December 2011, 6:43 AM

everybody checked it down thats why. nobody caught nothing but they had over cards. just wondering if it should be raised nd maybe theyll try for a card or just check

#18 11th December 2011, 7:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeme

hey thanks ikno im new and my questions are kinda general cuz im not used to the game yet. but thanks for the advice. and with the handcoverter thats cool i just realize what it is lol. i dint kno you can get your hand history on the site i thot you guys were typing it all along. lol ok cool. and yea i am playin onine at intertops.
i have a question about this hand i tried using the handcoverter but iono if usng it right so ima paste it here
Hand#2798011983000248 - Rome (Turbo 6-max) 11983 -- $0.02/$0.04 NL Hold'em -- 2011/12/02 - 18:40:52
Dealer: Seat 2
Seat 1: jman653 ($5.10 in chips)
Seat 2: duwopper ($2.58 in chips)
Seat 3: Triton300 ($3.96 in chips)
Seat 8: Razin ($5.25 in chips)
Seat 9: Stoneyman ($0.82 in chips)
Seat 10: CAPTAINBAMA ($2.66 in chips)
Triton300: posts small blind $0.02
Razin: posts big blind $0.04
Dealt to Stoneyman [6s,As]
Stoneyman: calls $0.04
CAPTAINBAMA: folds
jman653: folds
duwopper: raises to $0.08
Triton300: folds
Razin: folds
Stoneyman: calls $0.04
*** FLOP *** [7d,6c,2s]
Stoneyman: checks
duwopper: bets $0.12
Stoneyman: raises to $0.32
duwopper: is all in $2.38
Stoneyman: is all in $0.42
duwopper: returns uncalled bet $1.76
duwopper: shows [Kc Jd]
Stoneyman: shows [6s As]
*** TURN *** <font color='red'>K♥</font>
*** RIVER *** 3♠
***SHOW DOWN***
duwopper wins $1.59 with Pair of Kings
so basicly i had A6 suited i think after big blind. i knew the dood at the button had two over cards. and i flopped a 6 on the flop where all the cards are low. i knew i had hiim beat. so i check raised him. but he still called me and caught a K. iono just wondering how to play this hand. and what i did wrong.

I think you played it good, if you really had a solid read that he had 2 overs, you just got unlucky that he caught a K. That's poker.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeme

yea its rough..lol what about this hand guys game is .5/.10 6max
and i got bout 2bucks..the others got like 5 bucks
i got A9 in small blind..2 limpers
flop comes 999 should i bet or just check ?

lol this situation RARELY happens but...I would bet really small (maybe like 1.5-2BB) maybe even just min-bet because there is no way someone is going to put you on a 9 so they will most likely chase with any two cards thinking if they hit a pair it's the nuts, or they might think their high card is good. Also if someone has a PP (unlikely in a limped pot) they will most likely think their hand is good and raise.

#19 11th December 2011, 7:34 AM

dam i shoulda did that. at first i was thinkin wow i got the NUTS n i was afraid if i bet they gona fold. so i was hopin they will catch something and bet. but now that i think of it if i raised them bak they mite fold anyways

#20 12th December 2011, 1:46 PM

As stated above, it depends...
You have to know more or less how the rest of the table play and maybe go for it, but beware small pp's could get you in trouble.

If it's something below 55 and was shortstack I'd fold

#21 16th December 2011, 9:44 AM

was this a bad play? felt like sombody shot me..i think i shoulda raise back on flop?
or just a setup for failure.?
Hand#2811015018000589 - Rome (6-max) 15018 -- $0.02/$0.04 NL Hold'em -- 2011/12/16 - 01:37:40
Dealer: Seat 10
Seat 1: peepca ($4 in chips)
Seat 2: Stoneyman ($3.38 in chips)
Seat 3: bongwaterbob ($1.29 in chips)
Seat 8: Upay4myTlts ($3.94 in chips)
Seat 9: cipko55 ($3.86 in chips)
Seat 10: DJ1NN ($5.65 in chips)
peepca: posts small blind $0.02
Stoneyman: posts big blind $0.04
Dealt to Stoneyman [9s,Ks]
bongwaterbob: folds
Upay4myTlts: raises to $0.14
cipko55: folds
DJ1NN: folds
peepca: folds
Stoneyman: calls $0.10
*** FLOP *** [7s,Js,Kc]
Stoneyman: checks
Upay4myTlts: bets $0.20
Stoneyman: calls $0.20
*** TURN *** 4♠
Stoneyman: checks
Upay4myTlts: bets $0.35
Stoneyman: raises to $0.70
Upay4myTlts: is all in $3.25
Stoneyman: is all in $2.34
Upay4myTlts: returns uncalled bet $0.56
Stoneyman: shows [9s Ks]
Upay4myTlts: shows [2s As]
*** RIVER *** 9♥
***SHOW DOWN***
Upay4myTlts wins $6.33 with Flush Ace high

#22 21st December 2011, 9:54 PM

Maybe you could fold PF, but as played I guess if you raised on the flop he would have at least called. What the best play is I don't know but I guess getting it in on the flop is never bad.

#23 21st December 2011, 10:51 PM

Fold pre flop unless you have a solid read. The pot odds allow you to call on the flop, a raise would have shortened the odds against you.

Chances of him having that ace are very low so you played fine getting your chips in.

#24 22nd December 2011, 1:16 AM

Don't min-bet.

#25 22nd December 2011, 3:56 AM

What is the best play here where im playin micros .02./.04 and i got KQs at the button i raised like 12 cents i think. and flop comes 68K diamonds. 2 callers in the flop and they check to me. i have about 90cents left after the raise. i went all in. one caller wit 10s Jd called and next card was a diamond..did i make a wrong move? too strong? maybe?

#26 22nd December 2011, 11:39 AM

Set up auto top up or whatever they have on the site you play so you're 100BB deep. Otherwise you'll struggle to size your bets and end up having to bet like what you said above.

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