reraising your own raise is it legal

#1 10th November 2009, 1:17 PM

no limit hold em

player A raises to 1200 player B only has 1300 and goes all in player C calls player A then reraises all in is this legal as a min raise from player b or c never happen so he is techniclly raising his own raise cheers

#2 10th November 2009, 1:57 PM

If I'm reading this right, player B raised by 100 so player A was raising him, not himself. I don't think you can reraise yourself if everyone just calls. Correct me if I misunderstood what you were saying.

#3 10th November 2009, 2:02 PM

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#4 10th November 2009, 2:07 PM

because player b could not put in min raise which would have to have been 2400 surely the 100 was not a legal raise and players c was right to just put 1300 in and player a can only match that not reraise again

#5 10th November 2009, 2:33 PM

Agree, 100 is not enough.
A would not have been able to re-raise.

#6 10th November 2009, 2:49 PM

When the action is on player b he can raise call or fold, he can go all in if he likes asuming the game is no limit, If he was deeper stacked he would not have the option to only raise 100 but in this case he can

Because the 100 raise is not a full reraise when the action returns to player a his only options are to call or fold he cannot reraise.

#7 10th November 2009, 4:23 PM

thank u all good luck in games

#8 10th November 2009, 8:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vodkastr8

no limit hold em

player A raises to 1200 player B only has 1300 and goes all in player C calls player A then reraises all in is this legal as a min raise from player b or c never happen so he is techniclly raising his own raise cheers

No, going all in for $100 more is *not* a legal raise.

Example #1: A has 2000 B has 600 C has 3000
A bets 500, B shoves (100 more), C calls. Action is over because B did not make a legal re-raise (which is the amount that A raised)

Example #2: A has 2000 B has 600 C has 3000
A bets 200, B shoves (400 more), C calls.... A can raise if he wants because B put enough in for it to be a legal re-raise.

#9 10th November 2009, 9:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SavagePenguin

Example #1: A has 2000 B has 600 C has 3000
A bets 500, B shoves (100 more), C calls. Action is over because B did not make a legal re-raise (which is the amount that A raised)

The action's not quite over - A still has the option to either call or fold but you're right, he can't raise because 100 is less than a full raise.

Situation in the OP is the same, B has raised less than the minimum so A can call or fold but he can't raise.

#10 10th November 2009, 11:18 PM

Note that strategically player A should be aware that player B only has 'x' left in his stack, and make a raise sized such that the action will re-open if B shoves (assuming A wants to RE-raise because of hand strength or to isolate).

#11 11th November 2009, 10:22 PM

You can't raise yourself. If you raise someone else has to raise you before you can raise again.

#12 12th November 2009, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aliengenius

Note that strategically player A should be aware that player B only has 'x' left in his stack, and make a raise sized such that the action will re-open if B shoves (assuming A wants to RE-raise because of hand strength or to isolate).

An excellent remark.
I haven`t noticed this and never put this into action at the tables.
Never crossed my mind to make a raise with a monster so that a short stack can shove so much that it`s considered as a raise ,so you have still the action if another player calls the shove.
Have to keep that in mind. Thanks AG.

#13 13th November 2009, 8:58 AM

Understanding stack size in a tournament is super important to doing well.

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