reading/interpreting HUD stats

I have recently started using HEM and I find it really helpful for keeping track of how loose/tight I am playing and I have a basic idea how to read the other players, but I was wondering if there is a guide for this somewhere. I have used the search function and have found a few limited sources, but nothing that went into depth.

I play .10NL FR.

I have it set for

Name/ hands
VP$IP/PFR/AGG
FlopCB/foldCB/steal


1) did I miss a thread out there on this?

2) how many hands before these numbers mean anything? I've been using a hundred before I really put any value in the numbers. is this too low?

3) How do I read these numbers once I have enough?

4) do you have any recommendations for better stats on the HUD?


thanks in advance.

1) Yes, but I can't be arsed to find it.
2) Depends on the stat, and how big it is. If someone has stats of 80/0/0.5 after 15 hands, you can pretty much assume they're a fish. However, stats like WTSD take many more hands to actually mean anything.
4) If you play short handed, 3-bet %, fold to 3-bet are very useful.

I am also new to HUD stats and would like someone to elaborate more on the main stats. VP$IP/PFR/AGG, as mI beleive my game is being affected in a negative way by not being able to interpret the stats properly.
If it helps, I mainly play FR, or had been up until recently when I had strayed away from FR due to my lack of knowledge on the HUD stats.

BUMP.
56 views and only one response?
Are those who know how to properly interpret HUD stats scared to share their views for fear of being read easily by us noobs new to HUD? j/k.
Seriously though, share your thoughts.
I really think being able to understand the HUD will be beneficial to my game

Well, you can read the articles that come with HEM -- Plugging Leaks (in the Menu under Articles). That gives you some ranges to consider. It doesn't mention tournament play, however, which is what I'm wondering about.

Anybody have a handle on typical winning numbers for a tournament player? Is it similar to Full Ring?

Wow, I was really hoping to get some hits on this. Did I ask a dumb question or is there just not much info on CC?

could anyone point me in the right direction as to where I can find info on this?

I'm just not sure what you're asking. The HUD stats are sorta self explanatory. Guys with high VPIPs play too many hands. Guys with high 3-bet %'s 3-bet very lightly. Guys with high WTSD's are calling stations. Isn't that sorta obvious, or is it just me?

VPIP - tells you how loose some one is preflop, 10 is nitty, < 30 is very loose, between is about average. That is my experience and it does change by levels.

PFR - How often are they raising rather than calling. I don't use the number so much as look at how it compared to vpip. example 10/10 means nit and if they are in they are raising preflop. great candidate to set mine against. on the other hand I see 65/8 I know they limp all kinds of garbage but tighten up when they are raise preflop (total fish numbers by the way) A 30/27 gets a little ugly to play against Lag but they aren't usually any good.

AF - just means tells you how likely they are to bet. for example a 10/10/4 is a nit that will always bet. so in that case if you set mine them, and hit your set you could donk the flop, they will raise shove over the top and you stack them. easy peasy. on the other hand a 65/5/.7 is a total donk calling station flush chaser and you just value bet the crap out of them and fold if the draw gets there and they bet it. or check call a reasonable bet.

This is just my take on this stuff. I don't claim to be an expert but I struggled w/HUD stats initially is this is what I have learned so far.

also you use the steal % to balance the PFR. What I mean is the higher thier Steal % is the tighter they are in early positions. So a 25/20/3 seems like a wide PFR range but if thier Steal % is over 30 or something then when they raise in EP thier range is much tighter than it would initially appear, maybe only including AA, or KK.

I think they're looking for stats that people find useful other than the default ones. The stats themselves are self explanatory but because there are many possibilities, they're wondering which stats other people use.

I personally like the WTSD and W$SD stats as together, they give me an idea of what people do post flop. The big downside is this does take some time to develop.

I'm not particularly fond of PFR because it doesn't keep track of how much a person raises, and as such, I only use it as a measure of calling a nonraised pot with a low pocket pair or suited connectors in hopes that I don't get raised.

OK, now I see where my question doesn't make sense.

I know what VP$IP and PFR and all the others mean, I guess what I am asking is that when you have them all in front of you what do they mean. what represents a tight aggressive, a loose passive, a maniac, etc..

for example a vp21/pfr16/ag5.89 and a 30/13/7 and a 13/7/3


how do you read these players? its obvious with sky high vp and pfr that its a donk/ maniac and low vp and pfr a nit, but what about everything in between.


what kindave hands can I put certain ranges on, or should I not trya nd do that?


Ive been working off these basic stats, but was hopig to get more info. I got them from a thread somewhere that I cannot find.

VP$IP
<10 rock (AA-JJ)
10-20 tight
20-30 loose
30-40 very loose
>40 any two cards


PFR
<3 rock
3-10 passive
10-20 medium
20-30 aggressive
>30 maniac


AGG (this is what I really dont know how to read)
<1 weak
1-2 by the book
>2 very aggro



are these numbers accurate for .10NL FR and how much should I use them? is there a better set of starting ranges for stats?

I hope this makes my question a bit more clear.

Did you read the articles I mentioned above? They come with Holdem Manager. That's what I used to get me started. I also ran across a video of a guy explaining it but I can't remember where I found it. (Big help, I know). Also, download and watch some of the videos from this forum where members are multi-tabling. They refer to the numbers as they play. Chuck-Ts and IceMonkey videos are among those I recommend.

See bold Above.

Thanks steve, and I just realized after reading that i forgot to thank you for your previous post. That was really what I was looking for. Thanks for the help.

...here are the stats from a reg i see alot: 7/3/3 (2k hands) Att2steal: 8.6 WSTD: 27 W$SD: 57.

From that we know hes tight and passive. But is Att2steal useful here at all? How can I use WSTD and W$SD to figure out how he plays postflop?

i think i have this right but ur att2steal is a percentage number right? so he's trying to steal the pot about 8% of the time, the second one i forget what it is and the third on is percent he's one on a showdown. over 2k hands, so most of the time he's not going to bluff to steal the pot. can anyone clarify this?

Those numbers mean that he only goes to show down 27% of the time but wins 57% of the times he goes to show down. In other words he folds too much before the river, you can bully him off of hand other than the nuts.

I could be wrong but that is the way I read those.