Poker Rule Question. Please Help!

#1 10th January 2010, 10:18 PM

Here is the situation. It is heads up. I am the short stack. The flop is K 10 (card that doesnt matter). After i bet the chip leader moves all in and i call. He shows pocket tens. I have K something. The turn doesnt matter, but the river is a king. With 5 people sitting around the table, we all thought I had one with a set of kings. The cards were picked up and we continued playing. After a while won. The next day the other person wants to swap the prizes. The hand was on video. What should I do, and what is the official rule. Please attach links of the rule if possible.

#2 10th January 2010, 10:59 PM

He has a full house, tens full of kings, you have trip kings and lose.

#3 10th January 2010, 10:59 PM

I think once it's done it's done.
Were you all in?

#4 10th January 2010, 11:00 PM

So you all thought the KKKTx (where X is the highest card on the table) beat TTTKK?? A Full House beats trips, so unless the board paired besides the K or your kicker matched a board card, you lost the hand. It always amazes me that people play a game for money without the most basic understanding of the rules.

#5 10th January 2010, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwig7

The next day the other person wants to swap the prizes. The hand was on video. What should I do, and what is the official rule. Please attach links of the rule if possible.

I'm pretty certain that the TDA rukes will show that once the hands are mucked and the next hand dealt then the results will stand. But remember that the 'rules' are whatever the card room says they are despite what the TDA may say.

#6 10th January 2010, 11:16 PM

My question is not whether he won or not. I know that a full house beats KKK. My question is what happens if no one noticed it, and everyone assumed that my three KKK beat, what he thought was hit TTT. I no its a stupid mistake but it happened. If he gave me his chips and we moved on do i need to give him is money back. He figured out he won the next day after watching a recording of the all in.

#7 10th January 2010, 11:27 PM

BTW here is the link to the TDA rules and you can find the 'rule' yourself. http://www.appservicesonline.com/Pok...g/?page_id=107

#8 10th January 2010, 11:33 PM

It's Rule 15 in the link Jilly posted above that applies:

15.

Disputed Pots
The right to dispute a hand ends when a new hand begins.

It's that simple I guess. Once the new hand has begun (it begins on the first riffle by the dealer for the next hand, but since we're talking about it coming up the next day there's probably no contention on that point) there's nothing you can do about it. Unless you're feeling nice, that is.

#9 11th January 2010, 2:23 AM

Did he throw his cards into the muck b4 you did. If so I think you win the hand. Better check the tape. Not sure what the rule is tho on awarding the wrong hand the chips. Odd that no one would realize he had the FH. (Are you sure your other card didn't pair ? ) Where was this being played ?

#10 11th January 2010, 2:31 AM

Most card rooms will let the hand stand as you won at the time. Personally, from a karma perspective I would probably give the guy some extra money if it really affected where each of you finished the tournament. But that is on you and certainly not an obligation.

#11 11th January 2010, 3:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzExorcist

It's Rule 15 in the link Jilly posted above that applies:

15.

Disputed Pots

The right to dispute a hand ends when a new hand begins.

It's that simple I guess. Once the new hand has begun (it begins on the first riffle by the dealer for the next hand, but since we're talking about it coming up the next day there's probably no contention on that point) there's nothing you can do about it. Unless you're feeling nice, that is.

^^^THIS^^^
If no one at the table realized the boat and the pot was awarded to you, then as soon as the cards were shuffled the previous hand was done and he can't go back and claim any part of it.

Oh and I want in this game if you guys don't see the obvious winner then I want in I'll take down pots with my jackrabbit straights (2 4 6 8 10 btw)

#12 11th January 2010, 3:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grossberger

Oh and I want in this game if you guys don't see the obvious winner then I want in I'll take down pots with my jackrabbit straights (2 4 6 8 10 btw)

LOL - we call those kangaroo straights down here

#13 11th January 2010, 3:24 AM

I know someone who thought they made a straight by having J Q K A 2. LOL. Oh well. It's very amazing how some people play for money without completely knowing the rules of the game.

#14 11th January 2010, 3:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerlovesme

I know someone who thought they made a straight by having J Q K A 2. LOL. Oh well. It's very amazing how some people play for money without completely knowing the rules of the game.

I get that a lot dealing corporate functions from people who've never played before - they always wanna know if they can wrap around to make a straight.

Could make an interesting / lulzy home game rule, actually...

#15 11th January 2010, 5:44 AM

I like to see the ones that think a 4-card straight beats a pair.

'But a small straight is worth more in Yahtzee than almost everything else!'

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