poker coach

#1 13th September 2011, 8:07 PM

hi all,
anybody using (or ever used) a poker coach.
how does it work ?
what do they do ?
has anyone improved there game using a coach ?
are they worth it ?
any general info (story's) about poker coaching welcome.

#2 13th September 2011, 9:01 PM

I have been coached and now coach myself. Coaching sessions are normally done via skype and using a screen sharing program like teamviewer or mikago. Usually its a sweat session (coach watches student play and comments) or database analysis.

I think coaching is a fantastic way to improve your game. But make sure you do your research first on who you are hiring.

#3 13th September 2011, 9:17 PM

can you tell me how much ?

#4 13th September 2011, 9:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcummo

can you tell me how much ?

It varies drastically - depending on who you hire, what you are being coached on, etc.

Having a coach improved my game drastically - I was coached on sng's initially then we switched to mtt's which I am better suited for.

#5 13th September 2011, 9:31 PM

was that with skype ?
how much did it cost approx ?
how long where you getting coached ?

#6 13th September 2011, 9:42 PM

coaching rules

Cost me $75 per session and I've had like 10 so its cost me 750, but as you can see i'm not regretting it, I would have lost that + more if I never did it, and yes we usually do it with skype and i chose to do my first sessions as a sweat he'd watch my game and at the end he'd tell me what he seen he didnt like, then after that in future sessions i marked hands from sessions I had difficulty with, we went through them together via hem replayer, he filmed the sessions for me to look over again and i just kept studying the videos until I got the information he was telling me.

#7 13th September 2011, 9:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcummo

was that with skype ?
how much did it cost approx ?
how long where you getting coached ?

Yes - we used Skype and teamviewer. I was coached for about 8-9 months I think - though the last few months were sporadic and mostly just touching up.

My coach was excellent - others here have used him. Honestly - he charged very varied fees based on how much coaching you planned on getting and what stakes you played and sometimes even what you could afford. I don't even feel it is appropriate to publicly post a rate when yours could vary so drastically from mine one way the other.

I can say it was less than Checkraise paid for most of his students.

#8 13th September 2011, 10:13 PM

you shoud've got some heads up coaching !
(sorry deb, i coudn't resist) just a joke.

#9 13th September 2011, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcummo

you shoud've got some heads up coaching !
(sorry deb, i coudn't resist) just a joke.

#10 14th September 2011, 7:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcummo

can you tell me how much ?

I just joined this forum so I don't want to sound like an advertisement. My blog is in my profile. You can find out more information there. gl

#11 14th September 2011, 10:25 AM

Blackrain is also a micro FR cash game legend

#12 14th September 2011, 10:28 AM

Coaching is great but IMO it's not worth it at the lower stakes - maybe for 50NL and upwards, but until then you can easily improve your game a ton just by playing, watching videos and analysing your own hand histories. Also the higher you play, the easier it is to recoup the money you have spent on coaching through profits. $50 an hour for 5NL coaching is 10BI an hour, but $150 an hour at 50NL is just 3BI and you'll be getting better coaching because you are paying more

#13 14th September 2011, 11:46 AM

thanks for the reply's
as i am only a micro/recreational player
at the moment,i will leave the coaching for now
and carry on educating myself as time permits.
unless daniel negranu or phil ivey wants to give me some
free lessons.
thanks peeps.
gl

#14 14th September 2011, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackRain79

I just joined this forum so I don't want to sound like an advertisement. My blog is in my profile. You can find out more information there. gl

Read your blog. Although the content is really good i'm confused by why you'd want to play so much at 2NL?

oh dw I see you have a lot of hands at 100NL. Even so, whats up with all the 2NL play?

#15 14th September 2011, 3:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbbb

whats up with all the 2NL play?

+1

#16 14th September 2011, 5:36 PM

Coaching is definitely worth it. My coach and I would analyze my hands and go through different concepts which helped a lot.

However, don't get a coach if you're a new player. You don't need to pay a really good player to teach you the basics of poker, there's plenty of free (and good) material out there that can do that for you. Get a coach when you have a good foundation and want to improve on leaks that you might not even know about

#17 14th September 2011, 9:10 PM

Coaching is worth it if you can afford it. Give it a go if you got the cash. Also, consider some of the training software options that are available like Leak Buster. It wont hold your hand like a coach will, but you can get a lot of bang for you buck. You just have to make sure you put in the time.

#18 14th September 2011, 9:11 PM

Also, make sure you do a thorough research of the coach. There are a lot of losing players doing coaching now.

#19 14th September 2011, 11:18 PM

can anybody set themselves up as a poker coach ?
what are the rules ?

#20 14th September 2011, 11:30 PM

If you're a micros player a sub to DC, DTB, BF or CR is probably better value for money.

#21 15th September 2011, 1:14 AM

having a grasp for the fundamentals is probably the best thing first, however I would recommend people to get coached when they move up to 50nl since the game is almost akin to 100nl games in my opinion. and there is a quite a big skill gap between 25nl -50nl (these days it never used to be though) a coach is worth every penny, my coach is discobisco drag the bar coach, he's very good at explaining hand concepts very well, really if any one is struggling save up for a session and see what you think, you'd be suprised how much you can learn in an hour.

#22 15th September 2011, 8:05 PM

We also have a couple coaches on this forum. Personally I had been coached by ChuckTs who really opened my eyes when it came to playing poker

#23 15th September 2011, 8:22 PM

Ya but Chuck wont coach you unless you play 25nl+.

#24 16th September 2011, 4:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramdeebam

Blackrain is also a micro FR cash game legend

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgomez89

Coaching is definitely worth it. My coach and I would analyze my hands and go through different concepts which helped a lot.

However, don't get a coach if you're a new player. You don't need to pay a really good player to teach you the basics of poker, there's plenty of free (and good) material out there that can do that for you. Get a coach when you have a good foundation and want to improve on leaks that you might not even know about

+1

#25 16th September 2011, 6:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brank

Ya but Chuck wont coach you unless you play 25nl+.

Which makes sense since you probably shouldn't even need to invest in a coach till 50nl

#26 16th September 2011, 6:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pascal LeFiscal

+1

I with i have his progress at 2NL. But for the moment just dreams

#27 16th September 2011, 9:09 PM

if you stay that long at 2NL without an amazing reason you're better off quitting poker

#28 17th September 2011, 1:10 AM

I would hire a coach a some point without question...

Since I'm playing micro stakes and freerolls it would make no sense, but once I hit a solid return like I did before Black Friday then my winnings could pay for it.

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