pocket queens

#1 17th November 2008, 8:51 PM

i hate pocket queens. I just dont think its that good of a hand anymore because if an ace or king comes up on the flop you cant play anymore if the guy bets and you dont have a set. Unless you have a good read you have to assume he has a better hand. How do you play that hand in general?

#2 17th November 2008, 9:25 PM

I like to shove all in preflop if it's a tournament, especially if it's very early. Every once in a while you'll get beat, but you can gain a whole lot of money if all the donks call you.

#3 17th November 2008, 9:41 PM

i play QQ and JJ the same way, with extreme caution especially OOP. no need to commit a bunch of chips after the flop if an overcard comes. just make a standard c-bet on the flop and if you get called, slow it down.

#4 18th November 2008, 3:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjyff

I like to shove all in preflop if it's a tournament, especially if it's very early. Every once in a while you'll get beat, but you can gain a whole lot of money if all the donks call you.

You sir, are correct.
Most of the time, you'll be up against a lower pair, maybe A + rag.
Then you could be up against AK.. you'd be at a coin flip
Then you could be up against KK or AA... but, only 2 hands out of a lot could destroy you. So... why risk a flop when some donkey will call your all in with any 2?

#5 18th November 2008, 3:35 AM

They are frustrating, but I still have a win rate of 64% with them so they do win the majority of the time.

#6 18th November 2008, 3:46 AM

i play them aggressive preflop then keep playing aggressive unless an A or K comes up in the community cards.

#7 18th November 2008, 3:52 AM

Now why would you want to go all in preflop early. Yes I understand if, and only if, a bunch of donks call, any K or A...and if you're talking donks any 2 live cards can hit 2 pr and crush you unless you hit your set. I have a better Idea, learn how to play, and learn how to actually lay down a hand if you're beat, and dont waste your chips. What if you're not surrounded by donks, with all in you'll either get beat, or win the blinds, which is only good later, when blinds actually amount to something.

#8 18th November 2008, 4:14 AM

Pocket queens are only strong when I don't have them. They busted my Kings earlier today and I'm quite bitter.

#9 18th November 2008, 5:45 AM

Obv raise PF and re-evaluate after the flop comes. A lot of action when an ace/king flops, your probably beat.

#10 18th November 2008, 3:07 PM

I make an initial increase, if put pressure crack, or if turning the K or A, there safely, because the risk will be great, who accompanied the increase probably should have an A or a The K

#11 18th November 2008, 3:15 PM

I play them slooooowwww.....raise preflop and if a K or A comes up I will make a value bet...if it is callled or raised then I know i am cooked....if everything is lower i will push all in...might it the dreaded 2 pair once in a while but usually the possible beats fold at that point.

#12 18th November 2008, 6:23 PM

pocket queens never work for me..if i get them now i push pre flop..thats the only way it seems to work for me. If i bet high then someone calls with idk king ten suited and they always seem to catch their king..it jus tseems for me the best way is to push pre flop.

#13 19th November 2008, 5:39 AM

Depends on position and if there is a large raise or reraise . Button is all in or a large raise depending on reads and table stacks. Short stack is a defintely all in pre flop and hope to win a race if your called.

#14 19th November 2008, 7:01 AM

Early in a tourny I would at least raise big preflop and maybe go allin depending on position and what happened before me. Early on you can get a lot of calls preflop that you won't get later on.

#15 19th November 2008, 9:35 PM

Pocket Queens is in the top 2 for my most hated hands! The other is Ace-Queen. It seems whenever I have QQ, someone else always has AA. This isn't just me saying this as my friends have witnessed this countless times! Whenever they're watching me play online and they see QQ, they tell me to fold because I'm up against aces. I try to see a flop with it and play it after that. If you're going all-in with them pre-flop, you're setting yourself up to go bust. Usually if I see all unders on the flop, I'll end up big betting or just pushing. There isn't much else you can do with them.

#16 20th November 2008, 1:27 AM

Great hand anytime. Just love to push with it. Yes, every once and a while someone pops you, but, if you don't make a move with it I can't see when you ever will.

Giver and lets gamble!

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