Playing badly after winning huge pot?

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  #1
25th December 2008, 7:38 AM
Reducto
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: nl holdem
Playing badly after winning huge pot?

I've noticed when playing live games is that after I've won a huge pot, I'm more likely to want to jump into the next hand as well. After I'm in I'm too amped up and busy stacking my chips to pay attention to the action. More often than not someone will raise and I'll have no read on them and won't be thinking clearly enough to make a good decision.

I do this to a lesser extent online but not having to stack my chips or control my mannerisms makes it less pronounced.

Should I simply stay out of hands when my head isn't in them or is there some trick to working through it? Often the starting hands are pretty strong and I'd like to be able to make good use of the affect the big win might have on other players. The times I have stayed calm I've been able to force people out when I can tell they're afraid of me.
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  #2
25th December 2008, 8:00 AM
KingIv3rson
 
Plays at: fulltilt
Game: holdem
i have the same problem man, winning big pots and then losing it within the next 5 hands. i try to walk away after a good pot
  #3
25th December 2008, 7:59 PM
Stu_Ungar
 
Game: holdem
Quote:
Should I simply stay out of hands when my head isn't in them or is there some trick to working through it?
The trick is to calm down and make rational decisions.

If you aren't able to do that then sit out a few hands.

You are on tilt here and need to learn to detach yourself from emottion. How? I dont know, its not a simple thing there is no one size fits all answer to a persons psycological state.
  #4
25th December 2008, 8:28 PM
JDVB
 
Plays at: Bodog
Game: holdem
After winning a huge pot i tend to play alot more hands. And be very aggresive. Which most of the time gets me in trouble
  #5
25th December 2008, 8:41 PM
Mystroman
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Omaha H/L
re: Playing badly after winning huge pot? poker

I see that happen alot. A few are on tilt they hit big then are going to win the whole thing the next few hands. are sittng out complaining about getting knocked out.. Be calm and play calm, take some extra time in the hand to make a good decision
  #6
25th December 2008, 9:39 PM
kidkvno1
 
Plays at: Ultimatebet
Game: holdem
Keep your playing the same, and or play like a Short stack...
The idea is to keep in your mind that you still have the same stack yet.
  #7
26th December 2008, 7:27 PM
silverslugger33
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: HORSE
There is a trick: It's called pay attention. When you win the big pot, get the chips in front of you so that they dont get mangled into the next hand. Then play the hand. Worry about actually stacking your chips once you fold a hand.
  #8
26th December 2008, 11:48 PM
bestoboth
 
Plays at: FTP, PS
Game: NLHE
OMG dude.. I do the same bloody thing... Is SO ANNOYING!

I think its cause i get overconfident and think i am some kind of poker god or something! especially if it was a particularly GOOD hand and/or I won a LOT of dough. Of course, reality soon sets in and I get beat down to normal... LOL

Of course, this is different in ring vs tourneys. In a ring, I will actually take a break for a couple or three hands (not even look at my cards) if I get the feeling I am gonna go all donk on it. I find I have made more money in the long run that way. I used to have a rule that (when FOLLOWED) worked for me... If I won a particularly big pot or doubled my stack I had to sit out for 10-15 mins PERIOD! Tell ya what, it really worked until I started NOT FOLLOWING it and then somehow I managed to go broke QUICK... before that I was doubling my stack and maintainng it at least nearly every time I was sitting down (online of course so I am always seated but still LOL). In live games I find that if I win a big pot I keep olaying as if I hadn't, I dont count those chips for a few hands or like someone else said until I fold and have some time. That way I still feel like I am playing with my old little stack... works a bit better but either way live is ALWAYS for me cause it is just plain harder to "sit out" for a while there I would take the chance after a big win to go to the bathroom or get a fresh drink or something.

Now in a tourney I just have to reel myself the hell in and if there is time I will sit out a hand or two. BUT more often than not I change my tack a little. After a big win I will just play SUPER TIGHT! Like only premium hands with no heroics... LOL

The problem for me is that sometimes my rules just get ignored... I go all donk and just pretend I don;t even have rules... but when I do follow them they seem to help.

If you find another answer please let me KNOW! LOL
  #9
27th December 2008, 12:01 AM
dranger7070
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: 25nl FR/6m
See everyone here is saying they have the same problem, but I really don't. I agree with whoever said that you are on tilt after you win a big pot. People sometimes forget that there is more than just "bad" or "negative" tilt. You can be on tilt from being too excited/happy. If you feel that you get too aggressive after winning a big pot, SIT OUT THE NEXT HAND. Unless of course you have a really good hand (1010+, KQ+, AJ+, etc.) Just take a lil break, take time to stack your chips, and get yourself in the right mindset again to whoop some ass.
  #10
27th December 2008, 12:26 AM
sassy_sue299
 
Plays at: fultilt
Game: holdem
re: Playing badly after winning huge pot? poker

I noticed that after winning,the most I can win is one more time lol,,,,but most of the times I won't win.So now i just leave for a few hours,or until the next day and try later ,,,,,,then i won't go on tilt ,or lose what i won.So for me,,what I am saying is,I will try one more game,and then walk away ,tc and gl
  #11
27th December 2008, 1:08 AM
Rammbone
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: nlhe
If I win a big pot I just pull my chips in front of me and not worry. Take a deep breath. If you dont have a good starting hand fold and stack away!!
  #12
30th December 2008, 1:10 PM
Brian182
 
Plays at: bodog
Game: both
loose aggressive

Well, one strategy with a big stack is to play loose aggressive. This means playing slightly worse hands that might catch a good flop in position, like suited connectors. What you seem to be doing is trying to get momentum going for you with any two cards after a big stack. Ya, I admit I like to limp in with whatever two cards after a big win, but after that, you should stop. I think it's good to see if you can win two in a row to establish a shark image on the table, plus your big stack, you know people won't mess with you unless they have the best of it. Other than limping with trash after the big win, or switching to a loose aggressive strategy position, you should go back to playing tight aggressive until the blinds get higher.
  #13
30th December 2008, 10:23 PM
silverslugger33
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: HORSE
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian182
Well, one strategy with a big stack is to play loose aggressive. This means playing slightly worse hands that might catch a good flop in position, like suited connectors. What you seem to be doing is trying to get momentum going for you with any two cards after a big stack. Ya, I admit I like to limp in with whatever two cards after a big win, but after that, you should stop. I think it's good to see if you can win two in a row to establish a shark image on the table, plus your big stack, you know people won't mess with you unless they have the best of it. Other than limping with trash after the big win, or switching to a loose aggressive strategy position, you should go back to playing tight aggressive until the blinds get higher.
There's no way I'd play loose-aggressive as the chip leader. Just sit back and enjoy your big stack. Take down a few small pots. If someone passes you, no big deal. I tighten up if I get up in chips, because you don't need to win more. You're fine where you are.
  #14
30th December 2008, 10:58 PM
PlayedYou73
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
I have the same problem..but its not so much after winning a big pot as it is after winning a decent amount in a SNG or MTT. I just find that I lose the next couple of SNGs or MTTs in a row...either thru bad/loose play...or just not winning my coin flips.
  #15
31st December 2008, 12:55 AM
DenisXS
 
Plays at: PDC Poker
Game: Hold'em
re: Playing badly after winning huge pot? poker

That's psychology guys. Try to go have a cigarette after winning a big pot. Or go have a glass of water and dont try to limp in or raise the very next hand!
  #16
31st December 2008, 3:55 AM
badassmoney
 
Plays at: bodoglife
Game: holdem
On Fire

Been there done that, I think we all can say that. We win some we lose some, but you wont wi them all. It be nice if we could but wont be greedy
  #17
31st December 2008, 4:19 AM
Reducto
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: nl holdem
I don't like playing loose with the big stack either, other than possibly calling a small stack all-in I might not otherwise if I had an average stack. I might also be a little more aggressive post-flop if I sense fear. My problem is more about quality of play after the win - it's not uncommon to look down after a big win and see a KQ-type hand, which requires some concentration to play properly. I suppose I should either simply not look at the cards or give myself a moment to settle down before playing.
  #18
6th January 2009, 4:26 PM
motorbreath14
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: holdem
I believe Doyle Brunson has said that he ALWAYS plays the hand following a big win, no matter what his cards/position are. The problem with that advice is that he has a ton of talent that most of us don't.
 

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