Playing against loose players

My question is how to go about playing loose players. I've lost a huge chunk of my bankroll from idiots calling AK with 26 and catching a 2 or something. Or I'll end up with J high flush with AK already out there and he'll end up with Q2 for the Q high flush. How big of a bet to knock these guys off these hands. I've tried 5x but I am only playing micro. But my BR has gone from 220 to 160 . I feel like I'm doing the right thing by giving myself lot of outs when putting money in the middle.

I guess it depends on how and when you are committing huge chunks of your BR (I hope you mean your stack) to A high.

ETA: You should post some hands and let the CC wizards give you some pointers.

I think it was just a string of bad luck.

I just rampaged 5 ring tables at once and came up on top on all except one. Pushed my BR back up 20.

I emailed Full Tilt Support and had them turn on your boomswitch

maybe you're putting too much in the pot at times when you know you could still easily lose, despite having the best hand preflop. take notes on them and if you know they'll never adjust the way they play, then you need to adjust your's to adapt to not losing so much in the hands you will lose...if they're calling stations, they won't pick up on it

The best to do is know that you have a great hand and catch the noob in act by getting him to raise or reraise you then going all in on flop or 1st turn

Couple things to think about:

1. You actually want loose players to call w 62o. Don't ever start thinking this is bad, it's very good. Any time you make a bet, you want people to call w worse hands than yours.

2. Loose players increase your variance over the short run. They're harder to put on a range and less predictable than tight players, so sometimes when you think you're ahead ("only an idiot will show up here w a runner/runner gutshot filled straight") you'll be behind and lose a solid chunk of your stack.

3. Loose players increase your profit over the long run. Because they're playing crap, they'll have to bluff or fold a lot of the time, which is money in your pocket.

The trick is to see if you can identify their betting patterns to figure out when they're relatively weak, and with some hands that you'd fold to a tight passive player's aggression (say, top pair/medium kicker), you'll actually need to sometimes call w against a looser player.

Are you sure thay are the loose players? (i'm just kidding) With players like that you just have to wait. I agree with everythink slycbnew (http://www.cardschat.com/members/slycbnew/) said. If you have enough patience you'll win!

I have been through the same kind of stuff at the micro tables, it's cheap enough that any donk will call all the way to the river with nothing but J3su or a gut shot. Just keep plugging you catch them eventually and can take them for some dough! PATIENCE!!! GL

How's that song go again, You Got To Know When To Holdem, Know When To Foldem,yea I'm being a smart a--, my point is you have to still play a good solid game of poker,sounds to me like you went on a little tilt, started chasin a bit,figure out what kind of table your sitting at an play it appropriately sometimes you can't play a to aggressive game but you have to pick your shots a bit more carefully pay a bit more attention at the other players range meaning if the river hits an A and you got pocket K's don't scream if they turn over A -2

Ran into another one. I was having a lot of success the last couple of days but this guy kept hitting. I only called or raise with hands or with many outs. But never hit my outs AK beat by 39o boo!

TBH you probably wont be able to knock many more players out with a 5x raise than you would a 4x or 3x raise.

If the guy likes his hand he will play it.

I think you need to focus more on pot control.

For instance the lose players tend to be the flush master type. If there is a flush on they will chase it.

If you look at the hands they play, they tend to play suited connectors, AXs KXs Qxs (if they are loose even for this type and Jxs)

So your J high flush isnt really that good, because they tend to love to play the AXs Kxs and Qxs hands. You are ahead of their SC range, but thats represents something like 1/4 of their suited range. The other 3/4 of their suited range beat you.

Now with the AK out there the Q high flush is still more likely. Sure they could be playing a SC but we have just removed all AXs hands and Kxs hands

There are 10 Qxs hands and only 9 SC hands

I asume you had AJo, hit the ace and rivered the BD J high flush.

But against this range, when the flush hits you are slightly behind even with the J.

So, I dont know how the hand played out, but in the scenario I mentioned really the turn should have been shoved (you want the call, but you dont want the flush to hit because its going to lose for you more than it wins).

Another way of thinking of it is that if you shove, and he folds then you win the pot-there and then, if he calls then you win about 70% of the time (because the flush dosent come in) of the remaining 30% you figure to win just under half of the time (12% ish) (obviously i have neglected to include 2-pairs and sets etc, but you get the jist, you want to get the money in before the river rather than on the river where he has either hit his hand or he has not and thus folds.