Omaha more profitable than hold em?

#1 24th May 2011, 3:27 PM

Does anyone make serious money with omaha and how does the higher vaiance and skill level make it more o less profitable than holdem?

#2 24th May 2011, 3:54 PM

I'm not sure if it's more profitable or not. I'm sure it's at the lowest stakes, the swings and variance are so sick though I don't think I could handle playing omaha long term. Then again, I've never gone out of my way to try learn it properly. A lot of the time it's all in on the flop/turn and there are so many outs for either player to take down the pot usually it's just who runs better

I think a good Holdem player is likely to make more at any given stakes than say a good omaha player. That's just my opinion I might be way off, because there are far more fish at omaha so I guess it just depends.

#3 24th May 2011, 4:23 PM

Marginal says it's more profitable than NLHE.

/discussion then I guess

Variance is only an issue short-term BTW.

#4 25th May 2011, 2:51 PM

Yeah that's true, variance is only short term. I guess it all comes down to the psychosocially aspect. If you can play without tiliting then I guess it can be more profitable. I for one, tilt very very very bad in Omaha. I like the odd game but I suck big time and shoulden't play it, I also blow a lot of dollar of lol.

#5 26th May 2011, 12:18 PM

The rakeback makes it profitable IMO. Once I played 2 hour 4 tabling 5NL PLO and got like 50VPP's. Don't quote me on that but it was something close. Your seeing a lot more flops and the pots get big very fast so it makes sense. It's not hard to be a winning player. I think table selection is more important than in hold em. Find a fish who calls down with two pair and you're golden for a good session.
PLO is more fun that hold em aswell but its all preferance.

#6 26th May 2011, 12:43 PM

Yeah rakeback I've earned a fair bit of omaha as 50% of hands are nearly all-ins lol.

#7 26th May 2011, 11:41 PM

I think it is, I only play omaha cash games. The tables have a lot more action than the holdem ones.

#8 29th May 2011, 5:04 PM

i think it is goood to play omaha on dealt rake rooms but think only cake and party poker left with this;p

#9 29th May 2011, 5:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzExorcist

Variance is only an issue short-term BTW.

This is only strictly true in a game where there is no rake.

#10 30th May 2011, 2:34 PM

If I sign-up and deposit on a new site then I will sometimes play micro stakes PLO,just to earn the FPP's,or VPP's at a quicker rate.
Your in the action more often,and the pots can sometimes get quite large.
If your prepared to take a few bad hits now and then,then it's a good way to earn some quick points,and also at times make some nice quick profits too.
Good luck if you try it!

#11 31st May 2011, 10:53 AM

I'm playing a bit of micro Omaha h/l to improve my board reading.So far haven't disgraced myself.
Playing real tight, but have seen some crazy players come and go.A lot of pot and all-in betting with hands I would not consider playable.

For me it is at least an ace and 3 under eight and preferably suited, before I will even consider all-in betting.

#12 5th June 2011, 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doom

i think it is goood to play omaha on dealt rake rooms but think only cake and party poker left with this;p

What is dealt rake, and how is it different to what PokerStars and Full Tilt do?

#13 5th June 2011, 4:38 PM

I don't think certain games are more profitable than others. You can lose just as much money in Omaha as you can Stud. It all depends on how much your playing with. Depending on the game wouldn't be a factor in that.

I've always been told to never buy-in with more than I'm willing to lose.

#14 7th June 2011, 4:27 PM

Personally, Omaha is not for me, because I like to figure out what my opponent has but in Omaha this is completely impossible if you ask me. I have heard alot of players such Phil Galfond say that Omaha is gambler's form of poker. Patrick Ant. says that this game is for gamblers... I would say Oamah is more profitable than Holdem in a good and a bad way...

#15 10th June 2011, 4:27 PM

Serious money is won and lost in PLO. If you are the type of NLHE that tilts becuase you got sucked out on, then PLO isn't for you. However if you are a gambler that loves tons and tons of action, then you should give PLO a try.

#16 10th June 2011, 5:42 PM

ive taken to omaha,but only mtt added or guarenteed. hard game to figure out but once u have the read of the table, it dont take long to build a stack.then getting to the cash is much easier than holdem

#17 10th June 2011, 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjaffe2

Personally, Omaha is not for me, because I like to figure out what my opponent has but in Omaha this is completely impossible if you ask me.

PLO is a game of many hands, so what villain holds is not the way to think, but rather: What potential draws and redraws appear on the table... in other words, what nut combinations are possible or potential, and if you have nuts on the flop, say, what are chances (percent) of being outdrawn by what combos?

In broad terms, percentages are not hard to figure in PLO.

#18 11th June 2011, 2:07 PM

I play Omaha in a home game, but we play fixed limit. The nice thing about that is that you can play the game without the extreme gambling factor. The key to winning at FL is to realize that the number of playable hands is a lot less than you might think. We have guys who are in after the flop who should not be and guys who throw away cards that they should be staying with, because they can't lose their HE mentality and don't know how to count outs in Omaha.

#19 21st July 2011, 11:20 PM

I have always made more money playing Low stakes Omaha(Hi-Lo). 1- Because I have played it longer then most of the online guys have been alive 2- I find a lot of newbies over value their hand pre-flop and chase draws that are improbable. 3- Also on Low stakes tables you can use your experience better in Pot limit tables compared to limit. Just my opinion.

#20 21st July 2011, 11:31 PM

There are a lot more specialists in HE these days, even in low stakes. So yes, Omaha has become much more profitable. This is why a lot of the pros now specialize in mixed games, where a lot of people who can hold their own in HE become huge fish.

#21 21st July 2011, 11:31 PM

I hate Omaha with a buring passion. I tried it for a while but lost $$$. NLHE is much more profitable for me. Although I do agree with Mentor above. Being good at Omaha is probably more profitable than being great at NLHE.

#22 21st July 2011, 11:44 PM

as others have said, it's a game of suckouts, big swings, and even bigger pots. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of largest online pots are in PLO. PLO is all about action + there's less NITs than in Hold'em. In Hold'em you can have AA, the best starting hand and raise 5x the big blind and there's a good chance that no one will give you any action. In Omaha, you can have AAKK ds (best Omaha starting hand), make the exact same play and have everyone call you.

#23 22nd July 2011, 6:23 PM

If you really understand the game and play it well, it has the potential to be more profitable than Holdem just because there are more fish playing Omaha than Holdem games nowadays. I know a couple high stakes Holdem players who have been killing it at PLO recently. Personally, I'm sticking to Holdem.

#24 22nd July 2011, 7:06 PM

Omaha is definitely more difficult. It's easy to get used to and understand how to play at first. Once you get the hang of it, it's a lot of fun though. I still prefer Hold Em' because it's easier to know where you stand in hands rather than having no idea what your opponent could possibly have in Omaha.

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