Ok so you know i was playing too many hands

Ok now after i got PT3 i now see i was playing to many hands, i give you the stats.
That number for position 1 don't look right, i fold alot of hands from there... Position 2 thats most of were i get AK AA AQ AJ KK QQ JJ 1010.
And i think i need to work on the BB.

You are limping or calling WAY too much. Your PFR and VPIP should be within a couple percent of eachother. I am going to guess you're limping in with way too many Ax hands or suited cards that you should just be folding. Your game would probably improve A LOT if you never ever open limped. Limping behind with a pocket pair or a good implied odds hand is ok sometimes but if you're first to enter a pot RAISE.

That's not to say that you should be raising weak hands like Ax or weak suited cards or even just connected cards. You need to tighten up your range a lot because 35/11 is not going to be a winning style.

Small sample but STOP completing from the SB. 60% VPIP from the WORST position is just bad. SeanyJ's advice is also correct. Concentrate on playing pots in position, never open limping, and just dumping some of the weaker hands you're currently opening.

Ok, thanks, and also in this stat you can see i have started to play less hands, and i see why it is better to wait for hands... And now i can start to buyin for the max at .01/.02 tables now, with UB it will be 4.00.
Ax i don't play that much at all, and i have been working on raising alot more now, and only tend to call with PP after a raise..

If you're the first person to put money voluntarily into the pot go with a raise. Limping is just giving your money away to a worse hand.

Like everyone has said, you really need to cut back on some of the less premium hands, especially since you are playing at the micro stakes. You also need to raise more of the hands you play. In some situations it isn't a bad thing at all to raise your suited connectors or your medium suited aces. You really need to stop completing in the small blind. That looks like a huge leak in your game. Your sample size is really small, you do need to play a few more thousand hands before your stats will mean much more than that.

Nice program... but let me tell ya that this isn't the best thing to look atif your only gonna use it one time and consider the statistics. What youwin largely depends on the hands you get, and in one game, you wouldntbe able to get the hands you get and the hands your opponents get to beabout the same in value. This happens after many hours of playing and manygames of playing. Personally, the best positions are the late ones, andin order, being the button the best, going down to sb being the worst. Thats usually the same for everyone, unless someone has some crazytechnique that they can use in some positions, other wise its about that.

I have been doing that as of late, and i am going up now, I'm less liker to play the crap hands now... And moved my hand range to 1010 A10 AJ AQ AK AA KK QQ JJ JK JQ QK JK 10K 10Q 10J, And any PP now, so back to the starting hands, later on i may start with Ax.
P.S i am also buying in for the max now after last night

You're better off adding lower suited connectors to your raising range than Ax, kidkvn. Also, not all the hands you listed are good for raising in EP, because they are easily dominated. Don't just raise more hands, also fold more hands.

I see your vpip and pfr are highest utg at 6max (position 3), I guess you are happy to raise many hands before anyone has entered, but cautious after someone else has entered the pot...I have this tendency also (not to that extreme), trying to become more positionally aware.

Ok, well UTG i try to keep it to AK AQ ss os, and i am also trying to become more positionally aware. And i do watch who calls when i am UTG..
For some odd resin AK well on the button don't work to good for me????? and thats with limpers in the pot.
And at some point i want to move to 9 player max tables, but there nuts at them.

I guess by ss and os you mean suited and unsuited? Your stats utg are 36/24...if you play all pairs and AQ+ thats only ~8% of starting hands.

Yep with ss and os.
And i am cutting back on hands now, i hope it will show in the stats in 2 weeks.

Alright, how about you erase the ones you have and start from scratch. Otherwise you'll be combining stats from different playing styles and it won't tell us much.

Ok, will do.

No need to actually erase them. Just filter based on the date you started playing differently.

Oh sorry, was thinking he was still using UltimateBet's stats not PT3 (thinking of old thread)

ok, i put the filter on back to when i started playing better and it is only a small amount of hands 87. I justed wished i would get better hands on the button, but i think i can use my table image to help some.
And the one big thing i have learned is not to play Friday night and Sat night, there are the drunks on there.

Hey, i moved up from 5nl FR not too long ago after making the 20BI's i needed there, thought i'd post my pos stats for you to get a rough idea of what they should start to look like over a larger sample, my UTG stats (pos 6) are maybe too loose but i just had a quick look and it's mainly b/c i suck at getting good hands in position and instead get dealt them utg a lot lol

Hope this helps a little, and if any more knowledgeable members see any holes then point them out please b/c i've got the impression that they're not too shabby so it might point a few things out for me lol

Oh, and your playing 2nl atm aren't you?? If so then i wouldn't plan on using your table image too much, only against the nitty regs (if there are any there) who you have a few hundred hands on, the rest of the fish don't know/care about their own image or anybody elses so don't think that just b/c you haven't played a hand for 2 orbits that you can raise with trash b/c you'll get callers everytime lol, and don't then fire 3 barrels b/c with your tight image you must have a hand right?? wrong lol bottom pairs look you up a lot more than you'd think

Good luck

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HI kidkvn,

The stats in your last table are looking better, but you still need to get your VPIP and PFR stats closer. Still need to raise more of the hands that you are limping with. Have a look at each position and at everyone of them you shold be looking to have a PFR of at least 50% of your VPIP at a bare minimum.

From experience, I would say that you are playing too many hands. If there has been a raise infront of you I would not play A10, AJ, JK, JQ, JK, 10K, 10Q, or 10J....and sometimes I wouldn't even play QK. I have seen A10 and AJ get beat way too many times by AK and AQ. Also, like others have said...don't even add AX to your starting hands. Ace-rag will never be profitable. There are situations where you may want to play ace-rag if its suited....but it is a situational play.

My stats disagree, if it wasn't for 2 hands in particular where i had the right odds and equity to make a call and lost on the good side of a flip, then i'd be up about $30 from ace rag, i've made about $45 from Ax suited as well so they can be played, you've just got to be careful and know when your beat imo. Play them for 2 pair or straight/flush value in the right spots and they can be hugely profitable at the micros where people stack off with AK/AQ/AJ all the time.

I hear that, i am doing so.

Yep, 2nl, yeah found that out the hard way on AK .. True it's hard to good hands on the button.

I know, and do so.
I would have to say hes right, just find someone with a big stack at a table and you will see them raise with Ax, and for as many times i folded Ax i wished i had played them.

It's been almost 2 weeks now kidkvno1 since your opening post. I would really be interested in seeing your results (good or bad) and hearing your thoughts on how changing up your play has helped/hindered you.

Hope your results have improved.

As important as it is to improve your game, be careful of putting too much stock in stats from just a few hands. A good run of cards could make your VP$IP much higher than it should be, but that doesn't mean you're doing anything wrong.

It takes a few hundred hands before percentages have any real value.

been missing some time to play, it has been to HOT. Tho i have been playing a bit here and there not much to add in to the data. Tho the few games i have played i have been raising.
EDIT: some what on a down swing on the stats, well playing a 9 player ring. From an up down up game.

Yes I agree totally. Was just curious if kidkvn01 had any thoughts on his progress, and if he felt that his changes were beginning to hinder or help him. I guess its probably not such a great idea to be results orientated at this stage, and you shouldn't place to much strength on evaluating the progress at this early stage.

Come to think of it, seeing how i played 190 hands in a 9 player table, and getting pushed on, and raising with good hands, and getting kicked on the flop, then only to find out the one who was pushing allin had semi ok hands, so well on the button AQ i raised .10 and got called flop was a low cards, and he pushed allin again, i then thought for a bit and called, he had QK, i won the pot then he did it again with A rag, and i called him with A10 , that game messed up my stats.
But i have been raising more when i get a great hand, and fold to a raise even with QK JK.
I hope to play this week and update my stats.