nuts get reraised on the flop

I am on BB with 10Jos. Two limpers at six man 5NL table. I have about $3.

Flop comes 9QK with 2 spades.

I lead out with a 10c bet into a 15c pot. UTG reraises to 35c. BTN folded.

What should I do here?

I think it's possible he has QK or maybe KJ, or perhaps 99, in which case he'd probably call an all in. But I also don't want to scare him away.

3-bet, run to the bank.

Iwould just call then check in the turn to see what happens. you did hit your straight but you may not have the nuts hear. when the turn come with a jack then i would play very carefully

Another things is he too could have 10,J or 2 spades

This, the only way to get the maximum out of this hand is to 3 bet here.

is he agressive?
if he is, go all in, if he isn't, I would call and check on the turn, and goes all in on any of his bets

raise.

Wtf are we in the twilight zone? How the **** does this make sense?

I really loled at this. No comment.

If you don't want to put more money into the pot when you absolutely know you are ahead, I'm not sure what you are hoping to get out of playing poker.

I would raise to $1.25 and hope he'll put me all in or at least call. If he were to call shove on the turn, well what happened???

Start with a full stack or gtfo!

I would raise 3x his raise, smallish bet on the turn, if he calls I make another small bet on the river, if he raises I'll probably shove, idk stack sizes that would help.

This is wrong

This is right

This is silly

This is funny

For those who got the answer wrong...STOP TRYING TO TRAP PEOPLE ON DRAWY BOARDS ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DONT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT 2 CARDS THEY HOLD.

Why has this guy reraised?

Is he bluffing? well in that case he folds to your bet, but he wasnt putting any more money in the pot anyway (unless he hit a mirical suckout card) so you lose nothing by betting.

Is he on a draw? Well if you reraise, he is still on a draw. If you call one of 2 things happen.

1) He hits.. you lose

2) He misses.. his equity drops and its harder to get him to put his entire stack in.

Has he got a decent hand and is raising to protect?

If you call one of 2 things happen

1) The scare card comes in. He thinks you hit the flush. He stops putting money in the pot.

2) The scare card dosent come in and you are in EXACTLY the same situation as you were on the flop, he wants the last raise.


So lets put that all together.

He is bluffing, you neither gain nor lose anything by raising.

He is on the draw, this is the point you can get the most money in against him. If you shove here and he hits, it dosent matter because he gets such bad odds to draw that if you repeat this 1000 times you show a profit and he shows a loss.

He has a decent hand. He is not folding! He is also scared of the draw. If you got him all in on the flop and the draw hits.. well it dosent matter does it, you are all in.

STOP TRYING TO TRAP IN SITUATIONS WHERE TRAPPING IS WRONG!

If english is your first language, then you should spell this word "here". "Hear" is what you do with your ear....that is the only context in which "hear" should be used. If english is not your first language, sorry....I am an ass.

Point number 2. He does have the nuts at this point....I have no clue what you're talking about. If he has 2 spades we WANT him to call an all-in. We are ahead at this point.

Point number 3 - Sorry...I feel like being a dick today because I am really hungover from last night.

+1

If you're asking questions with the nuts. Please pm me your username and what site you play on so I can sit on your table. Of course you shove if he's on a draw you make sure he pays to hit. Why would you even try and trap on a board with 2 spades and you don't have none? Why aren't you sitting with 100bbs?

lol @ this thread.

If you don't know how to play the nuts on a drawy board you have a lot to learn about poker.

Unless you're sure you're going to win, you need to price draws. That's it. Once you learn a thing or two about poker you can start trying to get tricky with it, but not at these stakes. Jam, you're getting called. (It's just $3).

Now against a tricky opponent with effective stacks upwards of $500, I personally wouldn't try to get tricky here. If my options are call, raise, or fold, my options are only raise at every opportunity. If I pair up or a spade hits or the board pairs I no longer have the nuts. Thats 11 spades to hit (nobody says he's holding one...) 4 to 6 cards to pair me up, depending on how many spades I have, and 8 cards that pair the board, for a whopping 23 cards that make my hand stop being the nuts. 3 shy of half the deck, and you want to CALL!?

Of course, he can't have a set, a flush draw, and a better straight draw, but those are the kinds of hands you can be up against. And thank your lucky pokerstars when villain shows up with TpTk or a bluff attempt, because that board is DRIPPING WET, and the possibility of you improving is slim to none.

flat call, itll make him think he ahs the best ahnd and youll get paid off no matter what you do on the turn

Already answered previously.

This thread is bumming me out a bit. OP has posted here asking for help/suggestions and then to see some of the comments that follow kinda piss me off (he's here asking for help... he wants to learn... he's not posting to tell you how big his dick is... so why flog him like it's an ego bashing contest?).

OP, I think if you were to read Stu_Ungar's posts on here there's some great info. for you. As far as some of the other's go, please disregard them & try not to let it keep you from posting more questions in the future.

too afraid of being attacked to reply to this 1...pm me for an answer

Bravo ....

Perfect ....

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Stu is right on base as always.

personally with that hand id just call his beat and wait to hit other wise you could be just feeding the other player money which i have done many times lol

What are we waiting to hit? We flopped the nuts. Also, pls read Stu's post.

STU is right.
when you a flop str8 none will think you have hit it, i've even seen it with better players..
No slow playing with a flush draw!!

if u get the nuts, never call unless u are planning to ttrap him into bluffing against u. if not just reraise him

3 bet and hope he shoves imho.

Stu has said it the best in his posts

Well, for everybody that told me what I've said was stupid, please just explain me why, I'm sorry if I'm not a pro, I'm just trying to tell what I would do.
I might not explained it right, if the villain is loose agressive, and he is in a draw, he would probably call, and the odds are on you, and if he is LAG and has tptk or a high pocket he might call as well.
when I said check and goes back all in on the villain it was because if he is actually in a draw, you would force him to pay to see it
sorry if my opinion is wrong, I would like to know what point is it wrong
and I would apreciate if you guys were more comprehensive
thank you

No problems here is a more detailed explanation.

Very draw heavy board 2 cards in the play zone. Villian appears to like his hand

get the $$$ in before the cooler card hits on the turn if he's drawing at the flush

you'll be sorry you didn't raise on the flop. If he isn't drawing at the flush a

spade will kill your action and it will be harder to make $$$. IMO your stack is

too small to play anything less than ABC poker here GL

k thank you, so I keep with I said first, (except the turn part), shove on the flop and it will be the right move =)

and by re-raising, I don't think he has a draw, I think he might be putting YOU in a draw and trying to protect his hand (maybe tptk or 2 pairs) so re-raising in a draw is a pretty weird play

You don't try trapping on a draw heavy board like this or you'll end up trapping yourself right into a losing hand. Stu has it correct get your money in good. Remember what the big papa Doyle Brunson said "It's better to WIN a small pot than to LOSE a big one" If you shove here and he folds you probably were not getting called in the first place, if he does call with a draw and hits at least you got your money in ahead. Lets look at it like this you flop the nuts bet out and villian reraises you and you just flat call hoping to trap what happens when a spade hits or the board pairs and he he bets the pot or shoves? you have no clue where you stand,, he could be bluffing he could have the flush or hit a boat you dont know and unless you call will probably not know what he held. By shoving his reraise you can get a little better info, if he folds he probably was just making a play at the pot or he had a weak king, if he does call you will see what he reraised with and now have much more info even if he does hit.

There are times in poker when it is best to gamble at least a wee bit.

Your intention here is to get villain to commit all his chips here and perhaps a shove scares him away.

Even with the possibility that the nuts will change by the river, they are yours now and you are nuts not to coerce villain into making a mistake here...

I think a reraise and letting him shove might do it.

No checking allowed here!!!!!