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martymart48

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Villain go All in after the Flop.What is the best play Fold Call or Raise?
 

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Id fold unless you know him to be a maniac

raise does nothing since you have other player covered
 
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You need a little math. First let's assume ace high isn't good.

You need to call $2,840 to win $4,030.

If we assume the nut flush is good, you have 9 outs twice.

The rough approximation one multiplies the number of outs by 2 for each drawn card to get your chance of seeing another spade, so 9*2*2 = 36%. 36% of the time you win $4030 for 1,450 (.36*4030), 64% of the time you lose $2,840 for -1,818 (.64*-2840), EV=(-367)

Easy fold.

If you think the 3 aces are outs, it gets better 12*2*2=48% you win $1,934 and lose $1,477, EV=$458

Not a must call, but positive EV.

The big question is what are the blinds? If you have 40 BBs I fold in a heart beat. If you have less than 10 if is much closer, mainly because teh chance villain is bluffing is larger.

In order for calling with a ONLY flush draw to be positive EV, there needs to be more money in preflop.
 
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If you're lucky or even psychic you should call.Otherwise you should fold.
 
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this looks like the first hand of a tourney, if it is a freeroll no doubt you have to pay

but if not then you have to consider some situations,

the strongest hand he could have is a set, and if the set is pocket 2 and is the 2 of spades still on the deck your odds are ca 10% and the other 2 sets your chances are still lower than 15%

then he could have aces, in this case your chances ca 40%, if has kings, queens, jacks or tens (this is the lower), your chances slightly over 50%

however the villain could have and SPECULATIVE hand like Kx or Qx and a DRAW flush or could have 98 with a TP or 76 with a DRAW Straight in those situations you are well ahead,

so info about the villain could help, was he the raiser preflop? or 3bet or 4bet? was he playing and raising too many hands before this one

so if your villain is a player considered loose, opening, raising and reraising hands too often very likely he had a speculative hand, so in this case is a easy call, otherwise is fold,
 
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Thank for Good Reply:).1$ NL MTT 3000 Players Blind 50-100.This players like Make many bet and raise.Not eazy call for me why i post this hand.I will post the Villain hand latter.Thank
 
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After the Flop :8s4: :5s4: :2d4:.

:as4: :10s4: (88%) vs :kh4: :qd4: (12%) :)

:as4: :10s4: (78%) vs :3h4: :6d4: (21%) :)

:as4: :10s4: (56%) vs :6s4: :7s4: (43%)

:as4: :10s4: (46%) vs :kh4: :kd4: (53%)

:as4: :10s4: (26%) vs :8h4: :8d4: (74%) :(

:as4: :10s4: (50%) vs ? ? (50%).

:8h4: :8d4: best hand for make this call? :as4: :10s4: not so bad 50%?
 
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Fold , you not have right pot odds what call this shove, vs pair we have only 50% equity...
What call need how min here 60% equity... what call was profitable...
 
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Semi-Bluff?

Best move Fold ok thank.I call this hand last day.
What happen here bad semi-bluff? Crazy player?
 

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What the BI you play ? In freerolls this can only be , what donk shove only gutshot...
 
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So what villain show 63o , very luck , you have now more 60% equity and this call profitable..

But you need understand what right game. this fold, most of time here be pairs or overpairs, and call here will be really bad...
 
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Easy fold,the pot odd were already bad and you only chasing flush draw.
 
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Fold call or Raise?

I try to learn whit this thank all:).This hand same 1$ MTT Turbo NL Fold Call or Raise? Thank for advise,Reply.Villain bet after the flop and after the turn?
 

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Call in turn , and in river if flush draw not closed, and villain bet much only fold...
 
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i would probably fold
raise doesnt matter since the other player in is coverd by the first shove

but it also depends how well you know the players and what they did pre-flop
personly i give no credit in these spots to agressive players

if he was tight he would had calld pre-flop and shovd on the flop with 3of a kind or two pair

if he was opening wide he would raise pre-flop and them shove to steal

any way if he is bluffing he will do something like that again and you will only need to wait and check raise a monster ;)

just what i would do

good luck and may the odds be ever in your favor
 
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First hand definitely fold although this was fish shove you can't know what he had, he easily could have pair higher than the highest card on the flop and expecting you to be on flush draw he can shove to prevent chasing your flush. Second hand is definitely calling the turn you have the nut flush draw, so you should see the river for this pretty small bet. If you miss the flush maybe you should fold the river bet if it is strong one.
 
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Check or Bet?

Ok best play is Call for now and go to the river.Villain check on river.Now what i do check or Bet? I think is better just Check?
 

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Need bet for value 30% of the pot enough, here villain can call with only pair or Ax.. But if he 3bet, you need fold...
 
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