KK against J8

#1 9th September 2008, 10:12 AM

I find that when I'm dealt pocket K's and I raised it 4-5 times the big blind that I would get somebody that would go all in with a J8 and end up losing against a flush or straight draw. Is it a donkey call with the J8 or is J8 favourable against pocket K's?

#2 9th September 2008, 3:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witknight

is J8 favourable against pocket K's?

Are you kidding?

You want people to call you with that trash all day long. Yeah it'll hit sometimes, but no, no, no it isn't a favorite.

I know it's frustrating to get your best hand cracked by junk, but you can't let it get into your head an alter the way you play. Bad beats are part of poker, but in the long run, you're going to kill the players who think it's a good idea to call an all-in with crap like J,8.

#3 9th September 2008, 4:38 PM

I've had pocket kings and went all in with the K come out to make a set and still lose, same happened with AA as well.

But agree with Genso that in the long run lower card calls will get beaten more often.

#4 9th September 2008, 4:45 PM

I have said this before but its worth saying again. You only saw this guy hit, you didnt see the other 385 tournaments he busted out of playing J 8. If I have position and odds I like to see a flop with J 8 suited, but its not an all in hand.

#5 9th September 2008, 9:19 PM

Depends what type of game your playing. If your playing in a .01/.02 sent cash game or play money this is really common and shouldnt really surprise you lol.

best of luck to you

#6 9th September 2008, 9:54 PM

Depends. Was the J8 sooooooooooooooooted?

KK wins this contest about 84%. That means that KK loses ~1 in 6 times this occurs.

#7 9th September 2008, 10:02 PM

I just had AA cracked by 10-8 os. Its gonna happen. its just the nature of the game but 8 out of 10x the donk will lose.

#8 10th September 2008, 12:05 AM

I just started reading 'The Poker Mindset'.

A quote:

"If you make the correct decision, then the actual result of the hand is irrelevant. Inevitably, there will be times when you lose money as a result of making the right play, while inevitably other players may win money by making the wrong play. All you can do is console yourself with the knowledge that over time these players will lose their money, and if you keep playing well, you will be in the best position to win it. Don't worry about winning money; worry about making the correct decisions, and let the money take care of itself".

I literally just read this, and I thought right away that every post in the Bad Beat forum should automatically have this quote as the only response.

Play good poker and make the right decisions. That's all you can do, and it will most likely be enough to make money at the poker table.

I think .......

#9 10th September 2008, 12:42 AM

very nice quote, I really admire who can just ignore a bad beat that the just got with 72o for example, even that I know that I made the right decision and everything, it just drives me crazy
=(
I alredy know all the theory, but in the pratice it's pretty hard to apply it

#10 10th September 2008, 12:52 AM

the donkey would be the caller with the J8 stupidity tends to pay on fulltilt from time to time

#11 10th September 2008, 1:14 AM

KK against J8

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KK MET great advantage over J8

but much benefit even if they are J8

to suit different, I would not pay

J8 to see even a suit

so would a game if it were big blind

times the small blind, and another positions

not go to the game.

#12 10th September 2008, 1:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobboss171

KK against J8

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------

KK MET great advantage over J8

but much benefit even if they are J8

to suit different, I would not pay

J8 to see even a suit

so would a game if it were big blind

times the small blind, and another positions

not go to the game.

Bad Beat Haiku???

#13 11th September 2008, 5:26 PM

not too thrilled when i receive j8, but KK premo

#14 13th September 2008, 2:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witknight

I find that when I'm dealt pocket K's and I raised it 4-5 times the big blind that I would get somebody that would go all in with a J8 and end up losing against a flush or straight draw. Is it a donkey call with the J8 or is J8 favourable against pocket K's?

There is only one hand that is favorably against KK. J8 isn't it. It's a donkey call, and I'm surprised to see that question asked on this board.

~H

#15 18th September 2008, 3:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witknight

I find that when I'm dealt pocket K's and I raised it 4-5 times the big blind that I would get somebody that would go all in with a J8 and end up losing against a flush or straight draw. Is it a donkey call with the J8 or is J8 favourable against pocket K's?

Obviously that guy is a complete idiot (KK is a dominating favorite), don't worry about it.. bad beats happen.

#16 26th September 2008, 6:28 PM

It's a donkey call. It's really stupid to call a raise with these cards. When you are short stacked in a tournament you could re-raise all-in,but most times it is not worth it...

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