Taking shots at 50NL is great with hands like this!

Villain was an 82/13 mega-fish. Taking shots late on a Saturday night with the drunks is very +EV.

What I was most glad about was that, even though I'm still not completely comfortable playing for twice my usual stakes, I was ready to get it all in on this flop with my monster draw.

Full Tilt, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP1: $50 (100 bb)
MP2: $21.45 (42.9 bb)
Hero (MP3): $50.95 (101.9 bb)
CO: $70.80 (141.6 bb)
BTN: $8.50 (17 bb)
SB: $13.45 (26.9 bb)
BB: $33 (66 bb)
UTG+2: $48.70 (97.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP3 with J Q
UTG+2 raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, 3 folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.75) 9 A T (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 bets $2, Hero raises to $9, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $7

Turn: ($22.75) 8 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $5, Hero raises to $40.45 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls $33.20 and is all-in

River: ($99.15) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $99.15 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed J Q (a straight, Eight to Queen) and won $96.15 ($47.45 net)
UTG+2 showed J A (a straight, Seven to Jack) and lost (-$48.70 net)

Originally Posted by GunslingerZ

Taking shots at 50NL is great with hands like this!

Villain was an 82/13 mega-fish. Taking shots late on a Saturday night with the drunks is very +EV.

What I was most glad about was that, even though I'm still not completely comfortable playing for twice my usual stakes, I was ready to get it all in on this flop with my monster draw.

Full Tilt, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP1: $50 (100 bb)
MP2: $21.45 (42.9 bb)
Hero (MP3): $50.95 (101.9 bb)
CO: $70.80 (141.6 bb)
BTN: $8.50 (17 bb)
SB: $13.45 (26.9 bb)
BB: $33 (66 bb)
UTG+2: $48.70 (97.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP3 with J Q
UTG+2 raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, 3 folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.75) 9 A T (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 bets $2, Hero raises to $9, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $7

Turn: ($22.75) 8 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $5, Hero raises to $40.45 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls $33.20 and is all-in

River: ($99.15) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $99.15 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed J Q (a straight, Eight to Queen) and won $96.15 ($47.45 net)
UTG+2 showed J A (a straight, Seven to Jack) and lost (-$48.70 net)

Make sure you're very nice to this fish - if he complains or someone picks on him in chat, sympathize with him - fish taste good and unfortunately the supply isn't infinite...

Alright so I started with $20 at .01/.02 last Tuesday--I'm now just over $34 and was wondering at what point it would be a good idea to start playing a 2nd table at a time?

Originally Posted by TheWall

Alright so I started with $20 at .01/.02 last Tuesday--I'm now just over $34 and was wondering at what point it would be a good idea to start playing a 2nd table at a time?

You've got 17 100BB buyins, give it a try. If you find you're having a tough time managing two tables, stop, but you'll probably find it no more difficult tha playing a single table.

Originally Posted by RogueRivered

I'm thinking of moving to .05/.10 nl from .02/.05 nl. What kind of hits do win rates typically take when making a small move like this? Examples?

For comparison, my .01/.02 nl win rate was 18.75 bb/100 and my .02/.05 nl win rate is 8.81 bb/100.

Mine have cut almost in half at each micro step, so I'd expect something like 18>10>6 or 9>5 but who knows, if you're improving alot right now you might not see as big a drop at next level.

I was looking at my sessions in PT3 this month, and came across something that's ldo.

I've played 124 sessions (by time, 2,054 tables, 101K hands) so far in July for a meager 1.1 BB/100 winrate across all stakes and formats (FR, 6max) that I played.

75 of those sessions (31K hands) were 90 minutes or less. Over those sessions, I ran 9.33 BB/100 and have a positive winrate at all stakes and formats that I played.

49 of those sessions (70K hands) were 91 minutes or more (PT3 counts a gap of 15 minutes as a continuation of the same by time session, so an all day session w 15 minute breaks every hour or so shows up as continuous). Over those sessions, I ran -2.40 BB/100 and have a negative winrate at all stakes and formats that I played.

Hmmm. Seems to suggest a need to change something about the way I play, but I can't quite put my finger on it...

I have exactly the same kind of correlation between sessions and lengths.

What I've noted is that the down sessions often start off not going well. Then I focus on not tilting, playing tighter, remembering that variance is a factor, looking for better tables.

And then I try to work my way out of it. Meaning longer sessions.

But usually they don't come around and I end up losing more yet.

Originally Posted by slycbnew

I was looking at my sessions in PT3 this month, and came across something that's ldo.

I've played 124 sessions (by time, 2,054 tables, 101K hands) so far in July for a meager 1.1 BB/100 winrate across all stakes and formats (FR, 6max) that I played.

75 of those sessions (31K hands) were 90 minutes or less. Over those sessions, I ran 9.33 BB/100 and have a positive winrate at all stakes and formats that I played.

49 of those sessions (70K hands) were 91 minutes or more (PT3 counts a gap of 15 minutes as a continuation of the same by time session, so an all day session w 15 minute breaks every hour or so shows up as continuous). Over those sessions, I ran -2.40 BB/100 and have a negative winrate at all stakes and formats that I played.

Hmmm. Seems to suggest a need to change something about the way I play, but I can't quite put my finger on it...

Originally Posted by NineLions

What I've noted is that the down sessions often start off not going well. Then I focus on not tilting, playing tighter, remembering that variance is a factor, looking for better tables.

And then I try to work my way out of it. Meaning longer sessions.

But usually they don't come around and I end up losing more yet.

Bingo, most of my longest session graphs show me getting stuck in the first hour for 1.5BI's+, and I'm definitely trying to work my way out of it.

I have a weird thought process when I lose a stack. If I lose to a reg that I respect, and all the actions Hero and Villain did make sense to me, I shrug it off and don't think twice about it. But if I lose a stack to a fish or donkey (say a 35/12/5), I convince myself that I can win it back from him with interest - ldo, he's a donkey or fish, of course I can beat him (how's that for ego?). I then proceed to tilt a bit, which leads me to press perceived edges too hard, which sometimes leads to losing another stack or two.

I see this pattern repeated in several of these longer sessions as well.

Originally Posted by slycbnew

Bingo, most of my longest session graphs show me getting stuck in the first hour for 1.5BI's+, and I'm definitely trying to work my way out of it.

I have a weird thought process when I lose a stack. If I lose to a reg that I respect, and all the actions Hero and Villain did make sense to me, I shrug it off and don't think twice about it. But if I lose a stack to a fish or donkey (say a 35/12/5), I convince myself that I can win it back from him with interest - ldo, he's a donkey or fish, of course I can beat him (how's that for ego?). I then proceed to tilt a bit, which leads me to press perceived edges too hard, which sometimes leads to losing another stack or two.

I see this pattern repeated in several of these longer sessions as well.

haha, i do the exact same thing

Originally Posted by Richyl2008

We will see you back at 6max when you get tired of people showing you the nuts every time

Prophetic imo.

Let's see, I've shoved three full houses into bigger full houses, and no matter how loose and retarded a player seems to be preflop (even utg wtf), if we actually get to showdown, somehow he's made the miracle nuts by the river...

Experiment over for now, need to recover my losses, back at 6max .

lol 6max

Thanks Sly--I'm going to give a second table a try tonight and i'll let you know how it goes.

Im thinking about making a video mo fo's!!

Originally Posted by Jurn8

Im thinking about making a video mo fo's!!

do it!

you think i will be able to post it on youtube?

Originally Posted by Jurn8

you think i will be able to post it on youtube?

haha idk

why would you want to?

cus its easier for everybody to watch then if i upload it saves you downloading

Originally Posted by Jurn8

cus its easier for everybody to watch then if i upload it saves you downloading

why not just use blip?

wtf is blip yo

blip.tv - Streaming flash video. No download. Very Nice.

I guess you never watched my most awesome (not really) vid ever! http://blip.tv/file/2056138

Icon beside the volume control is for full screen.

Ok Mo fo's ill get onto it, probs wont be til next week as I have some grinding to do!

lemly you sat on my right for like 5 hands tonight and left

im so pumped for August! its going to be my biggest winning month to date !!

Originally Posted by Jurn8

im so pumped for August! finally get to rest after hellacious july grind!!!

$10k month for you welshy!

possibly if i run like godly at 200 and 400nl and manage to do it within 20k hands

Originally Posted by GeoffLacey

lemly you sat on my right for like 5 hands tonight and left

lol sorry man. What's your screename?

I was trying to 4 table but all of them were jammed full of people so i decided to use my FPPs

Originally Posted by Lemlywinks

lol sorry man. What's your screename?

I was trying to 4 table but all of them were jammed full of people so i decided to use my FPPs

Geoff1991, but I still got the chance to 3-bet you so it's all good lol

Originally Posted by GeoffLacey

Geoff1991, but I still got the chance to 3-bet you so it's all good lol

aha! Well just consider yourself lucky that I didn't use one of my random 4bets on you.

But seriously, I get 3bet at soooo much b/c I steal like 40something percent

Playing poker during down time at the beach ftw!

you took your laptop to the beach?

yea its with the family, so it's not like I'm going out at night partying. And it's also a non-commercial island, so really noone my age is here anyhow.

Don't get me wrong I really enjoy the beach during the day, just like to dick around on the computer at night

Okay so I know I'm not the most consistent poster in this forum, but I remember a few months ago you guys put together a sweat session of all CC members... just wondering if the videos ever got made or there is a way I could get a link to them. Pretty curious to see what happened.

Originally Posted by Likminutz

Okay so I know I'm not the most consistent poster in this forum, but I remember a few months ago you guys put together a sweat session of all CC members... just wondering if the videos ever got made or there is a way I could get a link to them. Pretty curious to see what happened.

I can't remember which forum the thread was posted in, and am too lazy to search for it , but it appeared that some of the guys did a 9 handed session, but the session wasn't considered useful enough to continue with - some of the action wasn't exactly standard play...