JJ has got to be the scariest hand to play pre flop

Everytime i play JJ theres always at least a Q, K or A on the flop. What is the best way to play JJ?

tbh its not scary at all, many people just don't know what to do in the several situations that can arise. You can't just say that JJ is hard to play PF because of so many situations, including, stack sizes, player reads, what your playing it in(cash,sng, or mtt) It just all depends......I treat 10 10 and JJ the same as low PPs...basically JJ is easy to play...raise PF then go from there. Like I said there is so many situations even after you raise...if you get reraised you have to know how thta person plays, if you dont know, then you might have to lay it down. I t all comes down to ppl over valuing JJ

In tournaments I tend to overplay them like a big pair but only later in the tournament when you basically have to get more aggressive. Early in tournaments (so I can make it to later in tournaments) I play them like I do in cash games which is treat them more like a medium pair then a big pair and just set mine with them. Without a set, or without sensing real weakness in my opponnent, then it has to be a very friendly board for me to play them aggressively.

The same way you would play any PP where you raise preflop and overs hit the board.
What is so hard to understand?

I'd think that J/J would be less scary than T/T or 9/9 or 8/8 or 7/7. Unless you have a habit of over-valuing them and being unable to get away from them?

I used to have a rough time with J/J. I started to consider them "pocket tens" and that helped.

I used to hate J/J. I mean, I hate hate hated it. I'd spout the "There are three ways to play J/J, and all of them are wrong" slogan over and over again. But now I feel that poor J/J gets too much abuse.

I agree A K Q can beat you and normally people play these hands with any kicker, your just too much of an under dog to make a lot of money from them. I raise alot pre flop 5 BB hoping everyone folds. (later on in a tourney is more profitable). Early on i tend to raise a little less 3 BB and go from there. Any higher cards appear with a big bet or raise and i'm out of there.

This thread is dumb. Don't attach fear or anxiety to any hand. Don't worry about an overcard hitting the flop. Worry about your opponents range and what he thinks of your range. Depending on 1.34 million other factors an Ace hitting the flop might be your best friend (maybe your opponent holds QQ and decided just to call your raise preflop so now when you cbet on an Ace high board he folds the best hand).

I don't think this thread is dumb at all. The information that you along with I provided is information that people, like the OP, can learn and therefore hopefully many others will see and won't ask either....not sure if I'm making any sense but I think you know what I mean.

Come on JJ isnt that scary. If you raise your preflop about 3-4x the bb then hit the set

thats good. If you dont hit the set and you see a Q K A then be cautious and try to read

your opponents why did they call your raise.. wat sort of hands do they possess... It also

depends on what stake of ring game or cash game your in. if you play in lower stakes theres

a big chance that JJ would go down with A-x donkeys or K-x, Q-x donks. You can always fold

them its no harm done. Just dont bet more than your stack making you pot committed. Thats

the common mistake of players if they have JJ.

i dont understand what scary about the situation . my read for players is what i usually go off of . if you cant read the players you are in fact playing against , u will have to incorprate the scare factor . just learn what to do against the people at the table .

i dont like this situation. i think its the best way to raise pre-flop and to go all-in after or make a big raise after the flop.

I had forgotten to mention c-betting, which is what I do, based on the caller/s or position I'm in.

Please elaborate a bit, what do you mean by using the "scare factor"?

What is your average raise and from what position are you doing this?
also, When would you push all-in and what would determine your move on the flop?

i have a theory on all pps..... it is as follows..

22-jj limp only...ill call 5 times the bb on any postition with any of these hands ... (in general of course there are variables) trying to set draw obviously .... of course you will have to fold in times you dont want to ...but what ever...look at it as water gone under a bridge you havent even crossed lol...

qq-aa pf raise.... 5xbb.... every single time... ak fits in this catigory as well.. if im reraised in this situation... i look at who did it haha that will tell me what to do next.... ive layed down qq more than one time kk is harder but its been done aa...im not sure if i could lay down aa preflop...even as many times as ive seen it lose....im a numbers guy....and the numbers say push ...


if you get raised more than 5x bb...fold... unless your ss in a mtt or unless its a read you have that says your gunna win..heck even if you just have a "feeling" ... (i woulnt use that one to much haha)

anyway...good luck haha

Look to red.

I usually saute' JJ in some butter (raise it 3xbb) and then add in some mushrooms (AcKcQc) on the flop, and then simmer for about half the time clock (mother $#@^ dealer!!!! Does this to me every @#$@$^& time!). Then, I put it on a silver platter (push all in) and serve it to my deserving guests!

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There are so many factors that go into this but in general, for tournaments,

-I'll raise them up and if I get called by solid players (non fish), and there is 1 over, I'll c-bet but fold to resistance.
-If there are two overs, I may check depending on reads.
-If there is a board of unders, I will bet heavy unless I have a very very good read on villain. At least at the lower limits, there is a high probability of players thinking top pair top kicker is good.

Obviously this is very general and a much better way is to just analyze specific hands.

actually, that's probably one of the worst moves i've ever seen. yes, raise preflop, but just continuation bet on the flop, don't move all in unless you're completely sure everyone would fold. if you're playing against aggressive players, you either want to bet before they can with jacks, otherwise you have a tough decision as to whether or not you believe they hit a higher pair...

"This thread is dumb."

The board is called "Learning Poker," and the OP is trying to ask questions to learn something, so no, it's not dumb.

well put , and yes i always get close in mtts but im close to the bubble either way just shy or just in... so yea ... good stuff ..

as far as the kings ...well were talking about full table all ins haha and of the few i remember none ring a bell as being ones i regret haha so yea it doesnt happen but ive done it and not been sorry so...

thank you..

Wow, try to give some advice and get a proverbial slap in the face

your kidding right?

i was totally giving props ....

as for the kings.... so we dissagree big deal all i said was ive only folded them a few times and its always been situations where i didnt regret it...

i was thanking you for the SOLID pp advice.....

i have issues with mtts...

so yea .... thicken up that skin soldier haha it did sound screwed up when i re-read it but that was un-intentinal.....

anyway..thanks again....

This hand is extremely dangerous....i usually play it like i do wired twos... just chuck it....especially if raised preflop.....if you happen to get in cheap...great..but if you have to call a huge raise i would be hesitant..

After dealing the game for many years i found out it usually not very nice to call another players ideas or questions dumb or ignorant..the dynamics of the game suggest that we all play different and are usually always looking for advise...

JJ is a funny hand. I had a break through in my game i think about a month ago. Before i was playing poor hands like QJ KJ, KT. Most cards a lot of beginners would play because they look powerful. But in reality they aren't.

JJ is FAR superior to those hands I listed, but the psychology is the same. You find a hand that looks extremely powerful, JJ, and you get attached to it. You raise significantly preflop, like you should, but an overcard comes out on the flop and you don't know what to do. Well, you should muck them and move on. Its all about training yourself to get rid of hands that look like they're good, but in reality aren't good anymore.

I would have to agree.I hate looking down and seeing J's.I would rather play a small pocket pair.More likely to hit IMO,also people hardly see them coming.

Less than 15 BB's i'm usually happy to commit to Jacks, it does get tough after the flop though if there is a bullet on the board staring up! I guess if you want to be technically safe, play it like 10's and down. See the flop with as small a raise as you think will deter the rag-playing limpers, then post flop- no set: no bet!

They are not more likely to hit. they are the same chance to hit.

I usually raise, depending on position. But like every other somewhat attractive hand... you have to be ready to fold it when you feel that you're beat.

It isnt, just bet or raise with it preflop, think, J-J is Third best hand preflop. They are winning you only if they have Q Q, K K , A A there. If you do that preflop raise or bet, its easy to fold if theres Q K 8 on the flop for example and someone bets. So you should go all in with it PREFLOPor do bet/raise.

i wouldn't go all in preflop, because there are so many hands that could beat you once the flop is out. betting/raising definitely seems like a better choice, but like everyone is saying you have to be prepared to let it go.

Raising is a good idea if you ask me... It allows you to get a read of what your opponent has. If someone calls and an A flops, it's hard to call a raise, but if you bet... Often times opponents will fold if they are holding other pairs, KQ or something like that. Position also makes a difference in how I play

JJ it is final strong enough hand, and I consider that with it it is necessary to play aggressively enough on pre flop and also is accurate in other streets if the senior cards come