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| Depends on situtations. Just unluck if you lose with them on pf all-in. One of biggest bad beats to me with aces have happened on 3.3 dbl stack knockout. Prize pool was over 3k $. It was pretty deep. was like 60players left when i got these, and i had one of the biggest stacks. I had A-A on good position, raised with it, and bb(chiplead) went all in. He had kings. BOOM Theres a king on flop. **** SAKE. It made me mad. |
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Do you really think that if aa isnt my highest I am playing them wrong? I have played about 17000 hands since I got pt3, with aa 92 times. aa is behind qq tt and kk for me. I assumed it was just variance, but do you think that is really my faults? |
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| I'm overstating it. AA/KK/QQ/AK and so forth should be at the top. A few bad beats w AA's, a few flopped sets w TT, and it'll change things. I don't think I've ever had a 17k hand stretch where AA wasn't number 1, but I'm not a big enough sample by myself to say that's significant. |
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Truly the hardest part of AA is post-flop play. My style is not common among members of this forum, so a lot of the posts I see contrast to my personal view points (I'm much looser than the majority of the players here in cash games, and pride myself on my reads, and will call down with J high on a big river bet if I believe I'm ahead... Where such things would be considered lunacy by people with much better win rates), so when I created this thread, I'm pretty sure I'd had AA twice in a 4 hand span, and it was beat by some bull crap two pair both times, and I couldn't get away from it - perhaps a post in the BB forum would have been more appropriate. And while I'm currently not playing nearly enough hands to offer any significant sample of AA not being my #1 money maker, but truth be told, if you were to look at the hands I've played and the hands that've made me the most money, AA isn't anywhere near the top. But it's part of my playstyle. When I look down and see AA looking back at me preflop, I'm quite happy. When I don't improve and see a check/raise on the flop from a tricky player, the gears start turning. Truth be told, I'd rather pick up the blinds and limps and what not every time I get AA then ever have to take them to a flop, but the same can be said for every hand in my raising range. I like it simple. Either I'm ahead or I'm not. And when I say I'm ahead, either you believe me or I don't. And if you say you're ahead, either I believe you or I don't. And while one pair is just that, and ranks at the bottom of the totem pole for made hands, it's still the best one pair, so it gets a little tricky finding out if your villain has one pair or they have better. I'm watching a sitcom with big language now and my brainhole hurts, but if you get your money in with AA preflop and lost, then you're missing the point of the discussion. Any time you get your money in as a gross favorite you should be happy. It's the difficulty of translating your power against your villain's relative power based on playstyle, chipstack, value of your hand, board texture, as well as a great number of other factors always chocked up in the blanket answer "it depends." |
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| Can I join the "hate pocket aces" club? 3 consecutive times now somebody has shoved all in PF before me, while I have AA. Easy call, but everytime somebody has a lower pocket pair, and has hit their trips. I guess if it goes by averages though, I should be good on that not happening for a while again. |
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| Here we go again. We all like pocket Aces! Even those of you who say you don't, do. Sometimes we go through phases where our Aces don't win as much as we expect, but I agree with Atlanta (don't tell him though, I have an image to uphold), overall even a marginal player should be able to win more than lose with them. Personally, I get much more annoyed with 7 2 . |
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| What!?!? Ok no pocket hand is going to win every time, but everyone should be elated when they look down at two rockets. The hand is playable from any position and in any situation pre-flop and also it is the most profitable hand in poker. After reading one of Mike Caro's books though it greatly changed my outlook on aces. I often used to reraise with aces this is usually the wrong play in cash game because you want a lot of people to call. Everyone who calls is going to have a weaker hand. With this strategy you will not have as high as a percentage of winning but in the long run you will see an increase in profit. Depending on the texture of the community cards you should also be value betting all the way. In conclusion raise the normal 2.5X or 3X the bb value bet your aces unless you have a lot of suspicion and change it up if you have three bet a few times before it is fine to three bet your aces. Also when your under the gun or in early position throw in a limp every once in a while, but the majority of the time you should call the original raise to not prevent others from folding or raise your normal amount. |
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if you having problems winning with pocket AA then it is something you are doing wrong... i really don t know anyone that dislike that hand... well i think you don t mean that hehe... |
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| Lost my first AA hand in a home game situation last night. UTG min raised, I 3 bet 4xbb in MP, BB 4 bet 8xbb, UTG called, I shoved, BB and UTG called. I had AA, BB had KK, UTG had AKo. SB showed he folded A7, so I knew it just down to the one last King in the deck. As you can probably guess, BB got his 1 outer on the river. I did at least pick up the side pot between me and the UTG. Surprisingly, I got AA only a few hands later on the button, min raised, and only picked up the blinds. |
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| its the best hand preflop, so if u shove preflop ur doing it right by playing the odds. if u shove preflop and they beat u, theres no shame because u did everything u could. if ur playing around and lose to some joker holding 37 in the bb or whatever because u allowed em a cheap look at the flop because of ur arrogance of having aa and they hit two pair or better on the flop because u didnt play the pair correctly preflop u deserve to lose. whats the old saying better to win a small pot then to lose a huge 1? |
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