I finally found a way to deal with tilt

#1 25th October 2010, 5:07 AM

this will get rid of your PHYSICAL tilt issues, i promise haha, im not saying this will make you play any better or stop you from playing bad hands, only from breaking stuff

Okay, so I was sitting in my French Revolution history class and the lecture was extra boring today....so I break out my laptop and decide to get some hands in...

I upload Full Tilt and first hand get dealt pocket kings, which gets busted by A7o when he flopped a 7 and rivered an A. When I went to punch something, as i normally do, I realized I better keep it cool and just sat there and continued playing.

Again, I was playing in class the next day, bad beat hits and boom, I just sit there and keep playing, no physical motion. haha I know this sounds so stupid but it actually works for me

I now no longer punch, kick , curse etc. after beats, I just forgot about them and continue playing.

Just thought this could help some beginners out there who want to quit breaking stuff, cursing etc...after bad beats

#2 25th October 2010, 5:11 AM

id say it sounds like a helper but breaking stuff actually makes me feel better aslong as its not bodyparts

#3 25th October 2010, 5:21 AM

so your way of dealing with your tilt is by going to class?

#4 25th October 2010, 5:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jmill

so your way of dealing with your tilt is by going to class?

lol

#5 25th October 2010, 5:30 AM

i dont know about you....but...when i take a bad beat...i cant just keep playing and ignore it....i insist on at least saying F*** you and moving on...or hitting my fist real fast...something....if i ignore it i play even worse and it effects my upcoming hands...but by releasing my negative energy in a negative manner...i become positive...and can proceed to the next hand

#6 25th October 2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PattyR

i dont know about you....but...when i take a bad beat...i cant just keep playing and ignore it....i insist on at least saying F*** you and moving on...or hitting my fist real fast...something....if i ignore it i play even worse and it effects my upcoming hands...but by releasing my negative energy in a negative manner...i become positive...and can proceed to the next hand

I have another way of dealing with tilt. God help the donk and his mother from happening what is at my mouth at that moments. After that i continue playing like nothing happened.

#7 25th October 2010, 5:13 PM

haha well this class sucks but the point being it kind of carried over and it doesnt affect me anymore

I dont know cursing works too haha just saying i finally found a way to deal with it and I definitely let tilt get to me before

#8 26th October 2010, 6:28 PM

Whether im in class or not ill be like 'son of a b****!'

#9 28th October 2010, 6:13 AM

i dont know about this... punchin something always relieves stress for me

I need to play in class lol. it will keep me up at least lol

#10 28th October 2010, 6:36 PM

Weed! That's all I got to say about that.

#11 28th October 2010, 8:58 PM

crack!

#12 29th October 2010, 6:07 PM

When I go through a bad beat I curse and punch my desk, then I move on. If I just lose a little I just ignore it and keep on playing.

#13 29th October 2010, 8:28 PM

Getting over a bad beat is different for everyone, but as long as you get over it fast, it's all good. Playing in class keeps me sane ha

#14 30th October 2010, 12:39 AM

Thanks for posting this because I need some help with tilt sometimes when I get upset about really bad beats like losing with pocket aces. I might use some of info and apply into my game and just move on from bad beats. Thank you.

#15 30th October 2010, 1:02 AM

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Originally Posted by xdeuceswild81xx

I just sit there and keep playing, no physical motion. haha I know this sounds so stupid but it actually works for me

I now no longer punch, kick , curse etc. after beats, I just forgot about them and continue playing.

That's a mature attitude.

"You know what the alternative to taking it like a man is, don't you?"

#16 30th October 2010, 1:21 AM

if you are playing small stakes and get a bad beat
just forget it.
people at small stakes just will not fold so its going to happen often.
remember if you are playing correctly,you want the fish to call
and you will profit in the long run.
if some donk calls with crap and sucks out on you
just make a note on them and move on.
concentrate on playing solid poker and you will get
your money back plus.
good luck

#17 30th October 2010, 1:59 AM

meh. I like to break stuff, and threaten physical harm.

#18 30th October 2010, 3:43 AM

I have learn to just laugh LOL when i get a bad beat, it works most of the time

#19 30th October 2010, 3:46 AM

If recently discovered that studyaing in clas oposed to not studying helps your grads....

#20 1st November 2010, 2:27 PM

I started just forgetting about it and accepting this will always just be a bad part of poker and try to remember the times where I've busted someone late on with middle pair and hit trips or so.

It's weird though as soon as I have kings or aces and up against queens or suited connectors I used to just say to myself "Ahh watch a Queen hit the river here or watch this gut shot hit on the river" and time after time it just did.

This might sound crazy to some of you but It's like that book, "The secret" it's called. It's basically a book based on laws of attraction. If you wish/long for something so hard and emotionally think it's going to happen, it will happen lol. So instead of saying "watch me get rivered here" I decided to say to myself "my Kings are going to hold up and hope to attract postive energy into hitting my trips"

Obviously there are still times my favourite hands get turned over, HOWEVER I've found they are coming out on top more now

Most will think I'm a nutjob but well, kinda works for me and my tilt isn't as bad and I just take a bad beat and move on!

#21 1st November 2010, 7:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ramdeebam

I started just forgetting about it and accepting this will always just be a bad part of poker and try to remember the times where I've busted someone late on with middle pair and hit trips or so.

It's weird though as soon as I have kings or aces and up against queens or suited connectors I used to just say to myself "Ahh watch a Queen hit the river here or watch this gut shot hit on the river" and time after time it just did.

This might sound crazy to some of you but It's like that book, "The secret" it's called. It's basically a book based on laws of attraction. If you wish/long for something so hard and emotionally think it's going to happen, it will happen lol. So instead of saying "watch me get rivered here" I decided to say to myself "my Kings are going to hold up and hope to attract postive energy into hitting my trips"

Obviously there are still times my favourite hands get turned over, HOWEVER I've found they are coming out on top more now

Most will think I'm a nutjob but well, kinda works for me and my tilt isn't as bad and I just take a bad beat and move on!

I always tell myself they are gonna suckout that way I am ready for it. If they don't then it makes me twice as happy. Or sometimes I will close my eyes and not even watch. Then I look and see if my stack doubled or just auto reloaded and I don't have to see exactly how it happened. This has helped much because many of the times it's not getting sucked out on that hurts. It's how it happens. For some reason it bothers me less to see them hit their 2 outer on the turn than to hit runner runner for the straight.

#22 1st November 2010, 11:45 PM

I usually hit my punching bag thats right next to my computer...so that works

#23 2nd November 2010, 1:23 AM

When ever I have a bad beat I have to let the person who won know how bad/stupid they are. This eventually ends up with me being banned from fulltilt chat, but it's the only way I can move on. I'm going to end up being banned for a long time. So far I've had a 12 hour ban, but from what people tell me you can work your way up to a month or even a year.

#24 2nd November 2010, 1:26 AM

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Originally Posted by matt0216

When ever I have a bad beat I have to let the person who won know how bad/stupid they are. This eventually ends up with me being banned from fulltilt chat, but it's the only way I can move on. I'm going to end up being banned for a long time. So far I've had a 12 hour ban, but from what people tell me you can work your way up to a month or even a year.

Not the smartest thing you could do for sure. You need to suck it up and let them keep playing that way so you can make money off them in the future.

#25 2nd November 2010, 1:41 AM

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Originally Posted by matt0216

When ever I have a bad beat I have to let the person who won know how bad/stupid they are. This eventually ends up with me being banned from fulltilt chat, but it's the only way I can move on. I'm going to end up being banned for a long time. So far I've had a 12 hour ban, but from what people tell me you can work your way up to a month or even a year.

good luck with that

#26 2nd November 2010, 1:52 AM

12 hours? thats impressive, im only a member of the 15 minute ban club

#27 2nd November 2010, 3:30 AM

i found a way to deal with tilt as well, beer cocaine and stripeprs, gotta tell you its working so far

#28 2nd November 2010, 3:41 AM

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Originally Posted by xdeuceswild81xx

12 hours? thats impressive, im only a member of the 15 minute ban club

haha i had mine banned for a month...that was terrible...i couldn stand not being able to chat.

#29 2nd November 2010, 4:06 AM

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Originally Posted by xdeuceswild81xx

this will get rid of your PHYSICAL tilt issues, i promise haha, im not saying this will make you play any better or stop you from playing bad hands, only from breaking stuff

By "physical tilt" issues, you mean anger issues. Nothing to do with tilt at all.

#30 2nd November 2010, 4:16 AM

I just beat my fiance! (Just a joke)...idk i have alot of built up anger, so i always punch something and it makes me happy. Cracked my knuckle once so now i just punch my hand.

#31 2nd November 2010, 5:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PattyR

haha i had mine banned for a month...that was terrible...i couldn stand not being able to chat.

I hope I don't get banned for a month because I hate not being able to chat. I guess I'll have to try and control myself.

#32 3rd November 2010, 12:58 AM

When I get a bad beat I try not to think negative and keep playing like nothing happen. Keep my composure and stoic attitude. Then the majority of time my game will be good again. There are times when my bad beat will repeatedly continue, so I'll just stop playing for a few hours or days until my anger disappear and I have no clear memory of that certain bad beat. If you guys notice if you think to much about getting bad beat it usually return, so positive thinking helps.

#33 3rd November 2010, 4:10 AM

Everyone is able to deal with tilt, it's playing with tilt that's complicated.

Anyone?

Just because you can't curse because you're in class, doesn't mean you're not tilting. If the bad beat affects you in a way that you start playing worse, you could be the quietest guy in the room, but you're tilting. I don't ever curse because people who I wouldn't like to hear me curse would hear me, I don't do anything noticeable at all, but I may start stacking off in situations I'd know I was beat if I wasn't tilting.

For me, this is the way to remove tilt:
1) Remove the gambler out of you and adopt the mindset of the mathematician. If you made the correct play, you should feel you've done your job and trust you'll profit over time. You can't just repeat this in your hand trying to convince yourself, you really have to believe it. My mom is at university and had a course on statistics, so she learned about expected value. She knows all about it, can make all the calculations, but if you offered a to bet on a coin flip (a fair coin) and told her she'd win $2 in she won and lose $1 if she lost, she wouldn't take it. She doesn't care about EV, all she knows is that she can still lose, gambling is bad and she won't do it because it's all about luck and she's unlucky. This is the gambler's mentality, don't be like this.

2) Acknowledge when you've been lucky and remember it. I'm not just talking about when you get it in bad and suck out, remember all the times your aces held up. If you have AA against KK, you're about an 80% favorite, yet, if you win you get 100% of the pot. That's luck too. If you win with aces 6 times in a row, you've been really lucky and you don't even realize it. Start noticing this so you don't feel the the sites/the universe/whatever is out to get you.

3) Know that when you're tilting you don't suddenly become making plays that you know are mistakes, all you do is get back to old bad habits that you didn't completely get rid of yet. If you're tilting, you're not suddenly going to start shoving 100BBs with trash (if you do, you're still in the gamble mentality) because, no matter how tilted you are, you know that's a bad play and that's not how you're going to win your money back. You may, however, start calling raises PF with small suited aces convincing yourself you have the implied odds to do so, you may convince yourself your opponent is just cbetting and you should float, and then convince yourself he knows you're floating and he's now double barreling with nothing and you decide to float the turn too and then realize by the river he has something but convince yourself you can rep some slowplayed flopped set or something and go for the bluff. All you've done is become a huge calling station except you made it look really smart in your head. Or, you start seeing great squeezing spots everywhere, or you feel all bluffs will work... You start bleeding chips and you blame it on tilt, but in reality those are mistakes that are still in you. Maybe when you're not tilting and are not lacking patience you do them rarely and don't notice them, but they're errors that are still part of your game and you should fix them like any other. The fact that they all occur when you're tilting make you overlook them and think it's just tilt's fault, but it really isn't. You should, then, go over those hands when you were tilting and try to find those bad plays like you normally would and see why they were bad plays. That guy you just 3bet convincing yourself he was just stealing from the button had a button raise % of only 8% and a fold to 3bet % of 25%. How did you not see this? How the hell did you convince yourself it would be immediately profitable to 3bet this nit with 83o? Because he raised the last two times? That's not enough! Embarrass yourself in front of the numbers and next time you'll make sure you look at them.

#34 3rd November 2010, 4:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderPT

Everyone is able to deal with tilt, it's playing with tilt that's complicated.

Anyone?

Just because you can't curse because you're in class, doesn't mean you're not tilting. If the bad beat affects you in a way that you start playing worse, you could be the quietest guy in the room, but you're tilting. I don't ever curse because people who I wouldn't like to hear me curse would hear me, I don't do anything noticeable at all, but I may start stacking off in situations I'd know I was beat if I wasn't tilting.

For me, this is the way to remove tilt:
1) Remove the gambler out of you and adopt the mindset of the mathematician. If you made the correct play, you should feel you've done your job and trust you'll profit over time. You can't just repeat this in your hand trying to convince yourself, you really have to believe it. My mom is at university and had a course on statistics, so she learned about expected value. She knows all about it, can make all the calculations, but if you offered a to bet on a coin flip (a fair coin) and told her she'd win $2 in she won and lose $1 if she lost, she wouldn't take it. She doesn't care about EV, all she knows is that she can still lose, gambling is bad and she won't do it because it's all about luck and she's unlucky. This is the gambler's mentality, don't be like this.

2) Acknowledge when you've been lucky and remember it. I'm not just talking about when you get it in bad and suck out, remember all the times your aces held up. If you have AA against KK, you're about an 80% favorite, yet, if you win you get 100% of the pot. That's luck too. If you win with aces 6 times in a row, you've been really lucky and you don't even realize it. Start noticing this so you don't feel the the sites/the universe/whatever is out to get you.

3) Know that when you're tilting you don't suddenly become making plays that you know are mistakes, all you do is get back to old bad habits that you didn't completely get rid of yet. If you're tilting, you're not suddenly going to start shoving 100BBs with trash (if you do, you're still in the gamble mentality) because, no matter how tilted you are, you know that's a bad play and that's not how you're going to win your money back. You may, however, start calling raises PF with small suited aces convincing yourself you have the implied odds to do so, you may convince yourself your opponent is just cbetting and you should float, and then convince yourself he knows you're floating and he's now double barreling with nothing and you decide to float the turn too and then realize by the river he has something but convince yourself you can rep some slowplayed flopped set or something and go for the bluff. All you've done is become a huge calling station except you made it look really smart in your head. Or, you start seeing great squeezing spots everywhere, or you feel all bluffs will work... You start bleeding chips and you blame it on tilt, but in reality those are mistakes that are still in you. Maybe when you're not tilting and are not lacking patience you do them rarely and don't notice them, but they're errors that are still part of your game and you should fix them like any other. The fact that they all occur when you're tilting make you overlook them and think it's just tilt's fault, but it really isn't. You should, then, go over those hands when you were tilting and try to find those bad plays like you normally would and see why they were bad plays. That guy you just 3bet convincing yourself he was just stealing from the button had a button raise % of only 8% and a fold to 3bet % of 25%. How did you not see this? How the hell did you convince yourself it would be immediately profitable to 3bet this nit with 83o? Because he raised the last two times? That's not enough! Embarrass yourself in front of the numbers and next time you'll make sure you look at them.

That's actually really helpful. Thanks for that post. The first 2 points are a great way to come off of tilt (or not to go there in the first place), and I have used them often, however, point 3 I never really saw that way and will use to examine my play a bit more closely.

#35 6th November 2010, 5:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PattyR

haha i had mine banned for a month...that was terrible...i couldn stand not being able to chat.

Up to 5 days now. Not for abusive language this time, but for spamming. oh well.

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