How should I build my $49 bankroll at Titan Poker

I received a no deposit bonus at titan poker from the bankroll mob link. It took a couple days to receive the funds in my account. They gave me $20 no deposit, and as soon as I got that I started playing $5+$.50 double up sit and goes. I grinded my bankroll up to about $30 then I started playing $10+$1 double up sit and go's. What do you recommend I play to successfully continue to build my bankroll?

I need at least 1000 points before I can withdraw.
5000 points to receive $60.
10000 points to receive $70.

My titan points are currently at 187. They are easy to get. This is just from playing sit and go's for about 4 hours.

Umm, don't play so far out of proper bankroll management. You easily couldve lost it all playing $5 and $10 SnGs.

Look up bankroll management before you go broke.

play lower stakes....alot lower...doesn't matter how good you are, playing those stakes with that small a BR and the downswings will send you straight to bustoville

I'm winning 70-80% of these SNGS. Do you think it is still wise to play lower limits. If yes, what limits?

You are definitely playing way over your bankroll at that site (unless you have a bunch at home you are willing to deposit). Playing 1/6 - 1/3 of your roll at a time will soon leave you with zero. Search this forum for Bankroll Management.

I hate to say, but this is probably due to short term variance. Even if you are a very good SNG player, it is unrealistic to expect to win, or even cash, that often. Good SNG players can normally achieve an ROI of around 10%.

At the lowest stakes, as long as the rake isn't too high, you can probably get away with having 20 buy-ins. For example, if you had about $75 in your bankroll at Pokerstars, you should play the $3.40 SNG's. Once you get to the higher levels, I would suggest 50 buy-ins.

So I guess if you have about $50 in your bankroll, I'd go with $2 SNG's for now.

I agree 3-4 bad beats and u loose all.
1 dollar Sng is enough for now untill u make 100$.Even 2$ is too much with the rake of 0.4$. U can multitable 1$ buy-in SnGs and i strongly advise do not play anymore of those 5$ buy-ins for the moment. U can run on several lucky strikes but in the end u will bump into a loosing strike and loose it all without a proper bankroll management.

I do not know if u are reading this , but if u still have some money and not lost them all at this moment, play lower limits

70% of 6-7 games played is not 70% of 1000 games played

I like how you said if you still have money. My bankroll is down to $23 and I am playing $2 sit and go's now.

$1 SnG, like the others said $5 and $10 SnG's are way out of proper BRM.

I wouldn't suggest DON sngs, 2 much chance of collusion and also extremely boring. if you want to play SNGs then start with 1$ SNGs. if you want to play cash start at 2$ level. cash is much harder than SNGs though for the inexperienced player so I'd suggest starting with SNGs

@Skaplun; Thanks for assuming that I am an inexperienced player. I consider my self to have a good amount of experience with NL holdem since I have been playing online since I was 14 years old. However, I have to disagree with you about the DON sit and go's. Its more about how and when you make your bluffs and how you manage your chips. Obviously getting good cards will help you win. The DON sit and go's aren't that hard to win.

Here is an update for my bankroll. I currently have $42 in my bankroll and 400 titan points.

I would do $50 HU flips at PLO.

Everyone seems to ignore that crucial part of this unique equation.


Since this is not your bankroll, I (gasp) almost agree with Belgo here. Tho I wouldn't suggest PL. You seem to do fair in the double up games, stick with em a bit and since it was free money, only you can decide how much you want to let BRM thwart your progress.

@dj11: Yeah I did receive a no deposit bonus but I don't look at it as free money. If I did that I would probably end up throwing it away. But once I get 1000 points, I am withdrawing from titan and moving my funds to full tilt or pokerstars. I need better tourneys, all titans tourneys are rebuys!

My bankroll is now at $47.81.

Either go with belgo's advice, keep up ur own BRM, or don't boter with this...
I'd say take risks until you have 100$ and if you make it, then you can start playing with proper BRM and build up a real bankroll.

Here's the thing -- it's dang easy to lose $50 or more in a day playing at the stakes you want to play, if you play a lot. That's if you are a good player. Because the normal swings at that level encompass, easily, a $50 loss. It's expected that some days will not go well. The point of BRM is to accept the swings and have enough of a cushion to survive them.

If you lose your roll, you won't get to 1000 points, and, of course, you will have nothing to withdraw. Chasing the points for a bonus or some other thing is often a great way to go broke. (Been there, done that & am determined not to do that again.)

So either you cultivate patience, play at low levels for a longer time and use BRM, or you throw caution to the winds. You choose. No whining. Both have drawbacks. If the latter, expect to redeposit if you don't get really lucky. Excuse me -- deposit for the first time.

Im not ignoring this at all, instead of looking at it as free money like you, Im looking at it as his only means of a bankroll. I guess depositors and non-depositors look at things a lot different.

I agree. 50$ is 50$.

Free or nor, there are not many sites that give money for free. As a fact ia made account on almost all the sites there untill i found out of free no deposit bonuses, and now i cannot take advantage of that.

Is hard like hell to win freerolls to make a BR to play other type of games. Growing up from 0 to 50$ is not an easy thing. And 50$ i think is the lower limit that u can start playing for real and have a proper BR management.

I would grind $2 SnGs... if you have that much experience, then you should have no problem doing really well at that low level buy-in. Get that $50 up to around $150 and move up to the $3.xx games.

I don't know what Titan has but I play $2 SnGs at Full Tilt but I make the large majority of my money from $3 double-stack 90-player MTT SnGs (cashing 42% after nearly 100 tournaments with an ROI of 163.) What I'm saying is that you may want to give some small buy-in MTTs a try and see if that suits you. A couple of cashes there can really make a big difference to small bankrolls.

Exactly what they've ^ said.

Forget about the 1,000pt. thing. Instead focus on trying to slowly build the roll. I've seen countless number of people, make a few scores & then immediately jump up in buyins (they're 'treating' themselves??) and every single time they go busto. It is fact.
It is said (all over the place) that even the very best poker player would go busto if they didn't practise some form of Bankroll management.

It is not uncommon for an excellent player (even the guy who is leading the SNG leaderboard... aka the most wining player at the particular level they play on) to go 20 games in succession with zero cashes... & 10 in-a-row is not that unusual at all... it happens (even if you're getting it with the best of it a large percentage of the time). You need to play at a level where having a bad run of it won't crush your bankroll.
BRM is like abc rule1 of poker.
Obviously you'll have less variance by playing the DoN's but I'd suggest playing at low buyins. Maybe consider playing a $5 once you hit $75... but NEVER a $10.

So on a semi-related tangent, are these places like Bankroll Mob legitimate?

@Bovinity; You can trust bankrollmob. I have received 3 no deposit bonuses through them and pokerstrategy is another good one that will give you $50 no deposit for passing a poker quiz.

With $50 you should be playing the $1 or $2 sit n gos (if you want to play sit n gos), now you may think that this would take a longer time to earn your titan points, but at most places they take a higher rake percentage from lower staked games, so you can get a higher amount of points for your buy-ins at the lower levels and have less chances of busting.

i apologize for disrespecting you. I say shortstack 200nl games and do the monkey dance.