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  #36  
01-06-2008, 3:51 AM
philthy
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Hand Histories, please.
 

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  #37  
01-06-2008, 1:40 PM
KacieNicole
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Yeah but if it makes you feel any better I mean c'mon JJ and hitting your trips.....I would go all-in too in a heartbeat
You just gotta be patient and capitilize and your strongest hands not just TP but GL to you
  #38  
04-06-2008, 9:44 PM
buckshot1969
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I've taken a break for a few days here recently. I can say that the players are much more aggressive on FT as opposed to other sites. The problem with the other sites were I always did well (Doyles Room, Poker.com) is that there aren't enough tables/players. I end up playing with the same people every night. I hope that my bad luck on FT will even but never being able to win a sizable pot is just about ridiculous.
  #39  
05-06-2008, 12:22 AM
Dr_Dick
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Buckshot,

There are only two beliefs you could hold:

(1) Your on a bad run
(2) FT is fixed

Of course you could believe online poker is the work of satan, but let's stick to the two that have any real relevancy to this post.

(1) If your on a bad run, then suck it up. It has nothing to do with online verses live. It can happen and it does. I have been on a huge bad run live for the last month. I've been winning online where I play lower limits and I've been getting crushed live where I am playing the higher limits, losing the last 4/5 sets with all my mulah in the pot.

(2) If you don't trust online poker, why would you be playing 1-2 unless you just have tons of money to blow? I think many people are hesitant at first so they play micro games, well within their limits. As they get more comfortable that it is not rigged, withdrawing money, etc., they move up in limits that are supported by their BR. I realize you must trust other sites like Doyles, Poker.com because you stated you did well, still if I was to move to another site I think I would not start right off playing the higher limits.
  #40  
05-06-2008, 6:32 AM
Dayne G.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buckshot1969
I signed up for FT and have already made 3 $250 deposits. The first one I had JJ and flopped 10, 2, J and went all in for about $320, got called and a guy sucked out a straight on the river and busted me.

Then I had A, K and flopped A, 9, 4 and went all in for about $400 and got beat by A, 10 when he sucked out two pair on the river.

Then I had K, Q and flopped K, 10, 7 and went all in for about $190 and got beat by Ad, 9d when he caught runner runner diamonds for a flush.

I almost wish there would be definitive proof that online poker is fixed then I'd quit. How can these idiots keep calling w/ nothing or on some bs draw? I NEVER EVER catch when I chase.
LIMIT = losing one bet at a time!

NL = quote above!

-Dayne
  #41  
08-06-2008, 3:51 PM
ythelongface
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i know some people have already said this buck, but move down in limits would be a good start. your clearly getting killed right now at the 1-2 nl tables. and also, consider this....a lot of people online multitable and may well be completely unaware that your playing a solid game and raising with only strong hands etc. not to mention the faction of online players who just doesnt give a shit and will call you down because they think your bluffing. take the br managment advice as well. good luck to you.
  #42  
08-06-2008, 5:22 PM
D'wilius
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Your bad run is unfortunate, but could you please post about something/anything else? So far you're just stopping by CC after badbeats to vent. I can't speak for all of CC, but I'm not interested in this kind of relationship. Hmm, I'm sure there are songs about this...anyone have a theme song for this continuing thread?
  #43  
08-06-2008, 6:26 PM
sindri_93
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D'wilius
...anyone have a theme song for this continuing thread?
Cry me a river? Seems to fit well as the theme song for this thread
  #44  
08-06-2008, 6:27 PM
MR TOYMAKER
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I say BR management. Even if you have 250.00 roll I would play like I had 50.00 roll. Ring games are a quick way to lose or win money. Short sessions in them and changing games when you get beat like that. Problem is we tend to get tilted when beat and stay trying to recover money when we should seek different game or limit. Online poker, especially FULL TILT is full of sharks. Besides, in my own opinion the higher limit ring games you might be playing against tables full of friends( collusion) Im just saying ..... using instant messager ect.... to gain advantage. MTT's and STG's are safer bet against this type of possibilty. Be smart if you are new to ONLINE poker, take your time and learn about the online vs live poker. Play lower limits and don't move up until you get success there first.
  #45  
08-06-2008, 7:06 PM
philthy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sindri_93
Cry me a river? Seems to fit well as the theme song for this thread
You were the button
You raised pre-flop
But you didnt know the monster I was holding, no
So you took a chance
To steal with your hand
I bet you didn't think that I come over the top of you, no

You dont have to say, what you hold
I already know, you can't beat kings
Now there is just a slim chance, for you to win, you're not the fav
And don't that just make you sick about it

You told me you had me
You though I was bluffing, so you called
Now you see the mistake you made
And you need a miracle to fall
Here is the news, you must have me confused
With some other LAG
My hand is holding firm, after the turn
But its an...Ace on the river
Ace on the River
Ace on the River
Ace on the River, no, no
  #46  
08-06-2008, 7:29 PM
D'wilius
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wow, i was just looking for titles on emot. abus. relat.
Philthy wins the songwriting segment
  #47  
08-06-2008, 7:43 PM
intlplaya
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U did not have the nuts

If you are going to go all in like that in the future you better wait until you have the nuts before you shove your whole stack
  #48  
08-06-2008, 8:14 PM
vanquish
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i wish i could get action from no pair + no draw when i flop a set like you do...
  #49  
08-06-2008, 8:17 PM
WolfShadow
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Seems to me ur using all ur ammo (chips/BR) to take 1 shot at hitting ur goal, u didnt have the nutz, and over bid ur hand. Online poker some players will play any2 cards. U got to ask urself (why is this player callin) and believe (most the time) that they managed to suck out a hand with rags.
  #50  
08-06-2008, 9:19 PM
Poker Orifice
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I can relate to a degree as I've had times where I've hit badbeats ALOT in succession (you know,. the 4:1 fav. preflop stuff,.. that's just badluck), but also the other stuff (87% fav. on flop, etc.) where you get beat by absolute junk.
Hearing some of the advice above,... good and not so great. One being, wait to get your money in on the turn (in some situations,.. but what are ya gonna do,.. give the guy the odds to draw out on ya?... I don't think so).
So many players online are young, new, super aggressive, lacking knowledge, and loose as all hell, making ridiculous calls (probably thinking that your bet in relation to how they play,.. which could be very limited knowledge and experience).
I've stopped playing online with intentions of winning a bunch of cash and instead now use it more for seeing more hands in a short period of time, with expectations of running into morons,.. often.
I also never risk much on a cash table and actually my preference is for Mtts, where players are usually playing a bit tighter game (hopefully).
Yah, yah,.. I know, BUT you make most of your money from the loose idiot donkeys,... sure, but it can start to hurt when you get hit with suckout after suckout (not talking just 5 of them).
If it ain't working,... try something different. I find other games besides NLHE online to be better (sometimes) as you get alot less of the 'tv-poker viewing kids', thinking that a typical ring game is the same as an edited version of final table tourney play of an MTT.
I used to save some of my worst suckout handhistories,.... but why,... do I need to be reminded of them?? NOT. I know in each case, I made the correct decision and wouldn't have played it any differently (most of the time) and this is what poker is all about to me,.. not just about the immediate results.
Good 'Luck',... hope it comes around for ya. And as mentioned,.. why not drop down a bit in buy-ins so it doesn't hurt as much?
The 'get rich' quick scheme has never materialized for me online, but a nice hit in an Mtt is always nice.
  #51  
08-06-2008, 10:15 PM
willie beaman
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Your playing limits are too high. Depositing 200-300 on average, play the .10/.25 or .25/.5 tables. Even if you lose $15 in a hand, it's not your entire bankroll. If you decide to redeposit, go about it in this manner and play a few sit-n-gos, but no higher than $5 buy-in.
  #52  
08-06-2008, 11:06 PM
bw07507
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Quote:
i wish i could get action from no pair + no draw when i flop a set like you do...
me too lol

How do you have so many people chasing no draws/no pairs when u hit big, I didnt get that kind of action even when i was playin 10NL
  #53  
10-06-2008, 10:21 PM
scooter1981
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WVHillbilly
Well to play 1-2 you need a bankroll of AT LEAST $4000 (I wouldn't be comfortable without $6000 minimum). $250 should be playing .05-.10 at most.
You must be kidding right? did i miss something?
  #54  
10-06-2008, 10:22 PM
scooter1981
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is there a poker room that will even let you sit down with over $1000 at a 1-2 table? I musssst be missing something
  #55  
10-06-2008, 11:00 PM
vanquish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scooter1981
is there a poker room that will even let you sit down with over $1000 at a 1-2 table? I musssst be missing something
a bankroll is not the money you have with you at the table. it is all the money you have dedicated towards playing poker with.
  #56  
10-06-2008, 11:28 PM
shinedown.45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scooter1981
You must be kidding right? did i miss something?
Online Poker Guide > How Much Money?
IMO, you have missed this
  #57  
16-06-2008, 2:54 AM
buckshot1969
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I don't know what it is with FT but it just keeps happening. Logic tells me that it can't be fixed, they would get crushed if it ever got out. I just can't win there, I seem to do better at the smaller sites. I've always won on Doyle's Room, Sportsbook and Poker.com. I've tried playing tight but when I have the nuts after the flop or turn I just can't bring myself to fold them when somebody puts me all in.

Is there anybody here who would fold AA pre-flop? The last hand I played I had AA and a guy put me all in pre-flop w/ kings and hit the king on the flop. This is like the worst run I've ever been on, the most I've been up on any one deposit since I signed up is only like $80.
  #58  
16-06-2008, 3:59 AM
vanquish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buckshot1969
I don't know what it is with FT but it just keeps happening. Logic tells me that it can't be fixed, they would get crushed if it ever got out. I just can't win there, I seem to do better at the smaller sites. I've always won on Doyle's Room, Sportsbook and Poker.com. I've tried playing tight but when I have the nuts after the flop or turn I just can't bring myself to fold them when somebody puts me all in.

Is there anybody here who would fold AA pre-flop? The last hand I played I had AA and a guy put me all in pre-flop w/ kings and hit the king on the flop. This is like the worst run I've ever been on, the most I've been up on any one deposit since I signed up is only like $80.
so quit poker imo
  #59  
20-06-2008, 4:29 AM
buckshot1969
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Just to show that I'm not just a crying bitch, I finally won on FTP. About $1,000 so far. Amazingly a few hands actually held up.
  #60  
20-06-2008, 4:39 AM
vanquish
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if you keep putting your entire roll on one hand, you're going to lose it all back
  #61  
20-06-2008, 1:59 PM
starfall
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You get runs of really bad luck... losing back to back hands to 2-outers or runner-runner flush draws or the like has happened to most of us. The last tournament I bust out of I did so by losing literally back to back hands with a full house losing to better a full house, heads-up against the same opponent both times. Hated it, but it happens.
As others have noted, you probably need to be playing at lower stakes, so you're not losing your bankroll in one go. The other thing to bear in mind is that while in the short-term you've been on the wrong end of these calls, these are where the profit comes from in the long term. So you've had a run of the 1-in-5 shots hitting? I happens. Over the long run you'll double up on those 4-in-5 times. You are talking about 10's of thousands of hands, though, not just a few. The point of bankroll management is to ensure you don't go broke in the downswings.
Think of it like this... you'll play a few hands, and you'll put money in the pot before you get some back. You have to be able to take that swing before you get the full reward, just on that hand. Over a number of hands you may have a run of bad cards before you get something playable, and put in some blinds with nothing coming back. Again, you have to be able to cover that with your bankroll. After that you have those runs where you wait for the right cards, then miss, and have to cover that, too. Finally you have runs where you flop the best hand and get outdrawn even with monsters. You have to cover that last one, too, and that's generally the most expensive one, because you'll be right to put your money in as strong favourite to win. All you can do is ensure your money lasts to come back with the corresponding up-swing, and analyse your play to make sure you're not adding to the losses with other significant leaks.
 


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