How do the BB/100 work?

Hey cc i was wondering if i could make 2bb/100 hands a hour
is there a certain stratergy or a certain way this works for grinding?

i wanna take grinding and hourly rate very seriously and willing to put in the 7 8 hour days if not more.

And how dose the whole BB/100 hands work need explained please.

BB/100 is a way of calculating your winrate.

Note, there are two ways people use this. bb/100 and BB/100. They are different. bb is "big blinds" and BB is "Big Bets". A big bet is 2 "big blinds".

The term BB goes back to the days where people used to calculate their winrate in limit games as the bet size doubles in later streets because the pots get bigger.

First off, it's just bb/100, not bb/100 hands an hour. You incorporated two different ways of determining win rates: bb/100(which is just based on how much you average winning/losing over each 100 hands) and your hourly winrate(how much you average winning/losing for each hour you play). The two are different because for one person, they might play only 1 table and 50 hands in an hour, whereas the next might be 16 tabling, playing 1200 hands an hour.

As for your questions...is it possible to win 2bb/100? Absolutely. Is it possible for you? We don't know. We have no clue about how your game is, what your knowledge level is, or what stakes you're planning on playing. A lot more information is needed to figure those areas of your game out. How is your playing going right now? Current levels? Current Winrate? Volume you're putting in?

As for bb/100 vs BB/100 brank already took care of that.

Try not to be to concerned about bb/100. Just think about improving your game, your bb/100 will take care of itself.

^ this.

From everything I've read in all your posts OP you're getting way, way ahead of yourself. You've barely started to learn the game. Focus on learning first, accept that you're probably going to lose money during the learning process and put any thoughts of win rates and grinding out of your mind for the time being.

Just to clear up one other misconception that some people have on this topic, your winrate in bb/100 is an average over tens of thousands of hands. People with a 2bb/100 winrate don't walk away with exactly 2bb for every 100 hands they sit down to play. Sometimes they'll win a lot more than that, sometimes they'll lose a big chunk. They'll still have swings in their bankroll and even the "grinders" that you idolise have losing days, weeks, even months. Nobody makes exactly 2bb every 100 hands.

I think it's cool to see a newer'ish' player who's excited/enthused about the game, wanting to learn more & perhaps trying to visualize themselves grinding it out one day (ie. "anyone build a bankroll starting with <$30" etc.).

Reading posts from members like jaystun helps to re-motivate me.

gl jaystun!!

Yeah im just trying to cram this all in i been a player for 4 years for real money always but not a wining player usaly go to my poker room once a week but hard never win. But now im geting beter placed 7th in a live multi table tourney out of like 6 or 7 tables learning more reading more i guess it all falls into place.Just wanna know how to start building my Br now

Ive always been a little confused by this..

2bb/hour..whats the point, at 25NL thats 50c per hour? Youd have to be playing 20 tables to make 10 bucks an hour...surely this cant be right... make money faster playing double thru..

So i'm assuming im missing something obvious?

The thread is about bb/100 and BB/100 not bb/hour.

2BB/100 is an OK, but not great win-rate.
At 25nl that's $1/100 (remember one BB = two bb).
Playing 4-6 tables you can expect to play about 500 hands per hour.
So you are winning $5/hour.

Doesn't seem like much. But if you are winning at 5BB/100, which is certainly possible for decent players, you are now winning $12.50/hour.

Yeah, that makes more sense, so im assuming the people making a living from it are making 5BB per hour, multitabling, and playing higher stakes, cos 12.50 an hour is not enough.

Maybe some people make a living at 25nl...in countries where the cost of living is very little idk

$12.50 an hour is plenty to live off even in first world countries. Sure you wont be well off, but you could certainly get by on that wage.

$12.50 is about £8 ? £8 an hour for 8 hour day is well above min wage here.

Do not evaluate the state of your game based on your best results. That is a recipe for disaster as it leads to over-evaluating your ability, which is only one step from playing in games where you are -EV.

As for building your roll, improve your game and play within your roll and your ability, and it will grow naturally over time.

Some people play 30+ tables. That's pretty unusual, but for those who can do say 10 to 15, it doesn't take a huge BB/100 rate to win the equivalent per hour of a low-paid job. Plus there's nothing preventing people from playing more than 35 or 40 hours per week.

I think if you play 10-15 tables you wouldnt make the same, its not possible to concentrate properly on that many.

Also, £8 an hour is not really "well above" minimum wage, which i believe is 6.40 or so.

Im not arguing, i wish i could make £8 an hour playing poker, lol, but then, i'm a house husband, so even a few hundred a month would be extra.

PS...no one pays tax surely, after all, we dont get tax relief on losses...

Tournaments FTW obviously!!

Yeah, me too. I get an average salary - some extra £££ each month for doing something I enjoy for a couple of evenings a week is very appealing! Just gone back up to 25nl, so hopefully soon...

No tax on gambling winnings in the UK

Another way you can look at this is by calculating a few key numbers together:
1. Number of hands you play each hour (75)
2. Number of hours you plan to play (40)
3. Size of the bb ($0.50)
4. Estimated winrate (2bb)

*Everything in the brackets is only for this example*

This would all come together like this:
1. 75 * 40 = 3000
2. 3000/100 = 30
3. $0.50 * 2bb = $1.00
4. 30 * $1.00 = $30.00 a week

All in all, stick to your day job. Haha.

reg that I know 16 tables and makes enough to live off of at 25.. they must be getting in ridic volume.

Basically, the idea behind playing more tables is that although you'll probably win less per table, you'll win more in total because you're playing more table. e.g. 5 tables x $3 per table per hour is less than 10 tables x $2 per table per hour.

The tax implications vary depending where you live, but assuming poker winnings aren't taxable, then you have to factor that in to compare against a taxable salary; e.g. if your job pays $10 per hour and you pay 20% tax, you end up with the same amount in your pocket by winning $8 per hour playing poker.