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  Poker - Hand Analysis Lingo and other Poker Terms
 
  #36  
17-12-2007, 10:38 AM
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I don't think Push-shove makes sense? I know Push-fold etc. but push-shove is kind of an oxy-moron
 

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  #37  
17-12-2007, 4:54 PM
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Both push and shove mean all-in I'm pretty sure
I think that "push" has multiple definitions, depending on what you imply afterwards Push can definitely mean "push all in," but I think it can also mean "push the action," and not necessarily going all in.

This thread is great! I do have a question though? What does FTW mean? I am pretty sure it stands for "for the win," but I don't really understand why, for example, railbirds say it to a player at a final table when they are sitting out a hand. It makes sense to me to say it in an all in situation, where if the player wins the hand he will win the tournament. It seems like a big compliment when a railbird says it to a player though, as the player often responds with a tytytytyty
  #38  
17-12-2007, 11:19 PM
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FTW, at least in my experience, comes from playing video games. For instance when some is using a very lame tactic like camping and wins that way (sitting in one spot for a very long time) you could say: Camping FTW. It's usually pretty much sarcastic. But I guess you could say that in this situation it implied that the player in question went deeper in the FT by sitting out. Therefore sitting out getting closer to the win => sitting out FTW.
  #39  
03-01-2008, 11:31 PM
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Push is conservative in creating action or the application of pressure and shove is aggressive or reckless in creating action or applying pressure.
  #40  
11-01-2008, 12:41 PM
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ever hear of this, its a pair

sticks and stones,, you'll figure it out , i think
over and out
jph6696

Last edited by jph6696 : 11-01-2008 at 1:04 PM.
  #41  
11-01-2008, 3:01 PM
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sticks and stones,, you'll figure it out , i think
over and out
jph6696
pagggggggggget 10
  #42  
11-01-2008, 7:35 PM
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kathy liebert - verb - to screw someone over or be screwed over

example: that fish just kathy lieberted me with 27o
  #43  
14-01-2008, 7:13 PM
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could you explain what it means: wtg
  #44  
18-01-2008, 9:17 PM
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WTG: Way To Go .. AFAIK(as far as I know)
  #45  
18-01-2008, 9:54 PM
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BDFD = Backdoor Flush Draw
FD = Flush Draw
What's the difference?
  #46  
18-01-2008, 10:05 PM
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A Back door flush draw means you need running cards to make your flush.

Ie you have A♠ K♠ on a 2♠ 8♥ 9♣ board meaning you need running spades to make your hand.

A flush draw means you need to hit either on the turn or river.
ie you have A♠ K♠ on a 2♠ 8♠ 9♥ board
  #47  
18-01-2008, 10:13 PM
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OK, so a back door flush is much less likely to happen, because both remaining cards must be of the suit that you require... thanks
  #48  
29-01-2008, 11:57 PM
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Why "donkey" ... I am assuming it refers to a bad call on the flop and a bad call on the turn = a miracle river and making a marginal hand to marginally beat another marginal hand, but if I am wrong, let me know. Is it someone that just won't fold, is in a pot they have no business being in, does it imply unbelievable luck, or is this just a phrase coined by sore losers? And what happened to just being called a fish, flounder, or co****cker?
  #49  
30-01-2008, 11:38 PM
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When you do the 3 numbers with brackets x/x/x what is it referring to? I'm expecting it to be something obvious
  #50  
06-02-2008, 6:48 AM
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EBB anyone?
  #51  
06-02-2008, 10:40 AM
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If someone could tell me what "M" means I would appreciate it, I realise its something to do with stack size but what exactly?
  #52  
10-02-2008, 12:21 AM
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how do you play omaha
  #53  
12-02-2008, 9:54 PM
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Quote:
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If someone could tell me what "M" means I would appreciate it, I realise its something to do with stack size but what exactly?
M is Dan Harrington's formula of figuring your tournament stack size in relation to the blinds. M is more accurate than just dividing your stack into the size of the BB -- you often hear people say something like "I had 10 BBs left. . ." -- which can be deceiving. M takes into account not only also the SB, but any antes that may be in play, meaning that it looks at how much it really costs to play each round if you're just folding every hand. This can make a huge difference in the way you should adjust your play; for example, take a game where you have 10k in chips and the blinds are 500/1000 w/ 50 antes; you still have ten BBs, which might not seem THAT short-stacked, but your M here is only 5 (10000 / (10 x 50antes + 500SB + 1000BB)) which would put you in the "red zone". Generally -- if I remember correctly -- an M of 20+ means you're in great shape, 10-20 is ok, 5-10 is pretty short, and with anything below 5 it's high time to try and double up or go home.

Along with M, Harrington uses a measure called Q, which is essentially your stack size in relation to the avg stack at any given time; again, the higher the number, the better, with anything between 1-2 meaning you're in decent shape. Using both M & Q periodically during a tournament, not only on your own stack but also on your opponents', you should be able to gauge how well you are doing and adjust your play accordingly.

This should give you the general idea, but if you really want to learn more about it you should read the "Harrington on Hold'em" series of books. Hope this helps!
  #54  
12-02-2008, 10:02 PM
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When you do the 3 numbers with brackets x/x/x what is it referring to? I'm expecting it to be something obvious
VPIP/PF R%/PF A

Voluntarily Put in Pot
Pre Flop Raise %
PF Agression factor or it could be Post Flop Still not very sure on this one.
  #55  
18-02-2008, 12:42 PM
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well this may sound stupid, but i started playin poker about 3 months ago, only been playin play chips and freerolls i was wondering what donks mean?
  #56  
18-02-2008, 12:50 PM
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FTW, at least in my experience, comes from playing video games. For instance when some is using a very lame tactic like camping and wins that way (sitting in one spot for a very long time) you could say: Camping FTW. It's usually pretty much sarcastic. But I guess you could say that in this situation it implied that the player in question went deeper in the FT by sitting out. Therefore sitting out getting closer to the win => sitting out FTW.

ftw means for the win, ffs means for F**k sakes, pffft means i hate the dealer, and if some1 says something along the lines of f#%k u f#^kin suck how the f*#k do u make a dumba$$ call means u got aces then get beat by 3 of a kind dueces on the river
  #57  
20-02-2008, 7:26 PM
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well this may sound stupid, but i started playin poker about 3 months ago, only been playin play chips and freerolls i was wondering what donks mean?
Thunder Keller does a good job describing it at Card Player Magazine - New Poker Lingo by Thomas Keller
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23-02-2008, 6:17 AM
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o i c, there was a word for callin people who sucks at poker a name y didnt i c this long ago
  #59  
06-03-2008, 10:05 AM
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Very often, especially for the newest members reading the Hand Analysis part of the forum you will come across a lot of abbreviations. This isnt a definite list (yet).

Game Types
HE = Holdem
O = Usually Omaha Hi
O8 = Omaha Hi/Low
Stud = 7 card stud
Stud8 = 7 Card stud Hi/Low.
HORSE = Holdem, Omaha/8, Razz, Stud, Eight or better H/L stud. Typically fixed limit games. Game changes with the blinds/antes online, and at predetermined intervals live

Limits
NL = No Limit
PL = Pot Limit
FL = Fixed Limit

So if you see a thread starting PL08- It refers to pot limit Omaha hi/low hand.

Table position abbreviations
SB = Small Blind
BB = Big Blind
UTG = The first person to act pre-flop (first person after the BB)
UTG+1 = Person to the left of UTG
EP = Early Position
MP = Middle Position
LP = Late Position
CO = Cut off seat, the seat directly to the right of the button.
Button = Dealer (aka OTB = On the Button)
OOP = Out of position, generally meaning UTG, first to act on the flop, or calling a LP raise from EP, etc.

Player Types
LAG = Loose Aggressive Player
TAG = Tight Aggressive Player
LAP = Loose-Passive Player

Hand Identifiers
ATC = Any Two Cards
BDSD = Backdoor Straight Draw
BDFD = Backdoor Flush Draw
FD = Flush Draw
Gutshot = Inside Straight Draw
OESD = Open End Straight Draw
OESFD = Open Ended Straight Flush Draw
o / os = Off Suit
PP = Pocket Pair
s = Suited
TPTK = Top Pair Top Kicker
TPGK = Top Pair Good Kicker
TPBK = Top Pair Bad Kicker
WA = Way Ahead
WB = Way Behind

Poker Tracker Statistics
AF = Aggression Factor
BB/100 Hands = big bets won per 100 hands played
EV = Expected Value
HR = Hourly Rate
PFR% = Preflop Raise Percent
ROI = Return on Investment
VP$IP or VPIP = Voluntarily Put Money Into Pot
WR = Win Rate
W$SD = Won $ at Showdown
WSD = Went to Showdown

Tournament Info
ITM = in the money
Bubble = busting out of a tournament in the last spot before the payouts begin.
MTT = Multi Table Tournament
STT = Single Table Tournament
SNG = Sit and Go

Others
AI = All in
B&M = Brick and Mortar (a live card room or casino)
CR = check-raise
HU = Heads Up
PF = Pre-flop.
PFR = Pre-flop raise/pre-flop raiser.
HH = Hand history
PSB = Pot-sized bet
PSR = Pot-Sized Raise
Poker Tracker = Poker Tracker
FE = Fold Equity - The chance of a bet/raise taking down the pot.
OP = Original Post

Less Common (yet all too true) Ones
WTF: I doubt that was a sound play.
OMG: I am rather surprised.
ESAD: Eat sh*t and die
NH = Thanks for donking all my chips
TY = Totally blind to the sarcasm of the above NH
OMFG = Did you really just call all in with 84os?
GG = "I beat you!"
GG = "I know."
LOL WOW = I wish I could stab people through my monitor.
DGSD= Double gutshot straight draw.
BTW, I think this should be moved to "Poker general" and maybe archived
  #60  
07-03-2008, 4:40 PM
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Toyota should be added to the list. As in a 4 runner flush to win the pot.

What does FWIW mean?
  #61  
07-03-2008, 5:18 PM
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What does FWIW mean?
FWIW - For What its Worth (I believe)
  #62  
08-03-2008, 4:00 PM
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Great list but i have to disagree with one piece. Far from being blind to the sarcasm, ty often means "look here, you've been rivering me all day so don't give me that nh bs when I finally catch one"
  #63  
10-03-2008, 5:16 PM
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PMSL? Anyone?
  #64  
10-03-2008, 11:22 PM
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Pissed myself laughing.
  #65  
11-03-2008, 1:09 AM
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Pissed myself laughing.
Ahhh, So that's what everyone was doing the other day while we were railing AB!
  #66  
02-04-2008, 7:41 AM
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What does IMO mean?
  #67  
02-04-2008, 8:02 AM
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For example..


FYP

As for cake, well that's a Beardyian thing if that's what you're talking about. He's a cake fanatic and we joke about it in random threads.
MMMMMMMMMMMM..... Cake!!!!!!!
  #68  
02-04-2008, 10:54 AM
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What does IMO mean?
In my opinion, it means in my opinion!
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03-04-2008, 7:18 PM
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How about Double Barrel?

Am I right in thinking it means to c-bet if you miss the flop and then c-bet again on the turn?
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03-04-2008, 9:00 PM
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Hey thanks a lot really appreciate it
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