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  Poker - Graph Analysis Help
 
  #1  
18-08-2008, 4:15 AM
kleitches
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Graph Analysis Help

I'd like some help analyzing my graph of my play in the past 8 days (since I bought HEM). What to make of the All-In EV line and my Non Showdown Winnings line? Does the red line mean that my post flop play needs improvement? I'd like some help with this...

Also, here are my stats for a sample of roughly 10k hands. I know it's not much to work with, but could anyone at least give me a few pointers in what I could be doing differently/better? All of this is playing only 6-max 2NL and 5NL, btw.

VPIP - 13.5
PFR - 8.5
3 Bet - 3.9
WTSD - 24.8
W$SD - 59.3
Agg - 3.18
Agg% - 22.4

Thoughts are much appreciated. TIA!
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  #2  
18-08-2008, 10:13 AM
kleitches
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18-08-2008, 10:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kleitches
I'd like some help analyzing my graph of my play in the past 8 days (since I bought HEM). What to make of the All-In EV line and my Non Showdown Winnings line? Does the red line mean that my post flop play needs improvement? I'd like some help with this... The red line means you are losing money without going to showdown. Seems you are losing more money by folding than you are making by making others fold. I would think you would want that at least around zero, but I could be wrong. --- I believe the All-in EV line just shows you your all-in winnings or maybe what your all-in winnings should be. Not sure.

Also, here are my stats for a sample of roughly 10k hands. I know it's not much to work with, but could anyone at least give me a few pointers in what I could be doing differently/better? All of this is playing only 6-max 2NL and 5NL, btw.

VPIP - 13.5 Tight normally, but VERY tight for 6-max. The whole reason to play 6-max is because you can loosen up and see more flops. You should be at least around 20 in 6-max. Very good 6-max players are even a bit higher.
PFR - 8.5 Good, but could be better for 6-max.
3 Bet - 3.9 Dunno, I don't pay attention to that stat.
WTSD - 24.8 I think average, but may be low for 6 max.
W$SD - 59.3 A bit too high and says you only take top hands to showdown, but at least you aren't losing $$ there. I like to be 52-55.
Agg - 3.18 Good
Agg% - 22.4 Dunno

Thoughts are much appreciated. TIA!
My thoughts in bold.
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18-08-2008, 11:01 AM
BelgoSuisse
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Your stats say you're super tight. Only play premium hands and pocket pairs for set value, right?

It's a winning strategy at 2NL or 5NL because your opponents don't pay enough attention and pay you off when you play your big hands.

At some point, it will stop being a winning strategy when you move up because observant players will steal your blinds relentlessly but won't give you action the few times where you decide to play. But that's only a problem you'll need to address once you do move up.
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18-08-2008, 11:04 AM
sindri_93
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Sticker sums it up pretty nicly apart from the red line.
Your stats indicate your a person that is easy to bluff since you only take premium hands to showdown hence you losing money with out showdown.

If you where to start playing more aggresivly then you could actualy make money with out going to showdown,but your showdown winings whould drop.
Check out this thread Showdown Winnings vs. cbetting its goes into the non showdown vs showdowns winings much better then i could explain

I whould recament either moving to fullring or loosen up since your way to tight for 6max imo. But then again you are geting paid of aperantly so i dont know.
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18-08-2008, 2:39 PM
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I dont really mind how tight your stats are ~14/8 considering this is 2NL and 5NL and the play at this level is so loose (esp 6max) but you have to realise that as you move up in limits your going to have to play alot looser, especially with position, otherwise your opponents are going to be able to tear you apart.
 

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