Facing 4 bet by maniac

2c/4c blinds. I had K7 os on BB. 3 limpers ahead of me, and I checked.

Flop is K68 rainbow. I lead out 12c into 16c pot. Everyone folds except villain, who min raises me.

In the few hands I saw villain show down, he was a maniac. Shoved with a gutshot straight draw, and called off his whole stack on bottom pair.

I three bet. (should I just check call him down here instead?) But then he once again min raises me.

I am confused at this point because I hadn't seen him min raise. I had seen him either call or shove. Not quite sure what to make of the min raises.

I had been outflopped all night so I was gunshy although my gut said he was on a draw. Then as I was thinking, the timer ran out and I got auto-folded. I would probably have decided to shove but my hesitation cost me.

I had about 70% of my chips committed. Shove? Fold? Or just call it and then check the turn?

Although I had seen him make crazy plays, I had a hard time believing that someone would really be that stupid. It was clear I had a king. Did he think he could scare me off with min. raises?

meh, reading maniacs is hard. If you have his range as, say, a few better Kx hands, T9, and 87, you're flipping. Take out the better K's and you're 60/40 - but that assumes he doesn't have a better hand (2pr, set, oesd).

When you decide to 3bet, you should already be planning to either shove or fold over a 4bet. If you're not confident in your read that you're ahead of his range and will have to fold to a 4bet oop, don't 3bet - but I wouldn't be crazy about calling oop with TPNK either.

70% of your stack is committed? Snap shove as played.

Dang man.. 70% of your chips.. never fold.. you might as well.. but it's okay it's a learning process.. every time you commit bout 60% of your chips just go for it.. but if you feel your really beat then fold.

Sorry that's a typo. I meant I still had 70% of chips. I had 30% committed.

play top pair like its the nuts at those limits.

Damn the more I think about it now, the more I should have just shoved. A night of getting beat by the board made me too paranoid. (a guy flopped a set of 2 against my pocket 8s, my flopped set lost to a flush, QQ ran into trip K, etc.)

I only lost $3 cuz I was very conservative but in this hand's case, too conservative.

I could have been even if I just shoved this. The guy could have been 4 betting with ace high for all I know. I should have paid more attention to the clock.

idk.. vs. a maniac I don't try to make the mistake of playing back at them with a shyt hand. People get frustrated with the maniac and then they ship in the pile only to see "oh.. he flopped a set" (yes they can get good hands too, lol). Instead of playing back at them I'm looking to hang them.
I'll also tend to call them down lighter & choose to check-raise more often.

If you're going to 3bet them on this flop, have a plan for if they play back at you... otherwise why do it?

That's true. I didn't have a plan what I'd do if he 4 bet me.

Today I got my stack in against this other guy who was raising everything.

I had AJ suited diamonds on a board of J23 with one diamond. He shoves with two overcards and no draws. I call.

I even hit a diamond on the turn to take away two of his outs. I was feeling pretty good until Ks hits on the river. 4 outter, cleans me out.

It's been pretty frustrating in the last month. I am barely above even and these kinds of hands are happening frequently. I just hope it's only a bad run.