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  Poker - Example of how I hate to fold? lol
 
  #1  
26-06-2008, 4:36 AM
cparker
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Example of how I hate to fold? lol

Still learning how to fold more often. But tell me, did I play this wrong?

PokerStars Game #18386860924: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/06/25 - 23:26:16 (ET)
Table 'Algenib IV' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ssalsa ($2.20 in chips)
Seat 2: cucharita ($3.98 in chips)
Seat 3: DXman ($5.53 in chips)
Seat 4: twinkys ($1.94 in chips)
Seat 5: Chuckster211 ($1.80 in chips)
Seat 6: brakeysan ($4.07 in chips)
Seat 7: G23Non45 ($2.14 in chips)
Seat 8: Zveinieks ($1.65 in chips)
Seat 9: little luds ($5.10 in chips)
ssalsa: posts small blind $0.01
cucharita: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ssalsa [Ah Jd]
DXman: folds
twinkys: calls $0.02
Chuckster211: folds
brakeysan: folds
G23Non45: folds
Zveinieks: calls $0.02
little luds: calls $0.02
ssalsa: raises $0.08 to $0.10
cucharita: folds
twinkys: calls $0.08
Zveinieks: calls $0.08
little luds: folds
*** FLOP *** [3h Jc 7s]
ssalsa: bets $0.16
twinkys: calls $0.16
Zveinieks: folds
*** TURN *** [3h Jc 7s] [Tc]
ssalsa: bets $0.30
twinkys: calls $0.30
*** RIVER *** [3h Jc 7s Tc] 8
ssalsa: bets $0.30
twinkys: raises $0.30 to $0.60
 

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  #2  
26-06-2008, 5:34 AM
cparker
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Twinkies has just joined the table so I don't have a good read.
  #3  
26-06-2008, 5:41 PM
Jillychemung
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Preflop- If you knew that you were likely to get that many callers, you should have raised more or limped. Raise it to $.20 When you have opponents who routinely call a raise when there are multiple limpers you need to raise more. AJo is very marginal to play multihanded.

As played, flop bet is too small, pot it here or even overbet. A worse J will almost always call and you need to charge the drawers. Turn card is a killer as it hits so many likely hands that the opponent could have. I would have check/fold there. Yes you want to make an opponent pay to draw but with the opponent having a good % of hands that put him ahead of you you need to check the turn. River, fold, you are only beating a bluff.
  #4  
04-07-2008, 5:50 AM
I Am Willis
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your AJ is good there i would say 80% of the time maybe he had JT but more than likely KJ/QJ and thats why he is limping...

thats my assesment on the hand.
  #5  
04-07-2008, 6:07 AM
jewboy07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by I Am Willis View Post
your AJ is good there i would say 80% of the time maybe he had JT but more than likely KJ/QJ and thats why he is limping...
how can you say that?
hero has top pair and if opp was on a draw and didnt get there on the turn hes there on the river

J9 anybody?


i fold river because as C9 you can pretty much beat only a bluff
  #6  
04-07-2008, 6:14 AM
I Am Willis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jewboy07 View Post
how can you say that?
hero has top pair and if opp was on a draw and didnt get there on the turn hes there on the river

J9 anybody?


i fold river because as C9 you can pretty much beat only a bluff
Am sorry but no, you go and play a micro cash game like that and tell me players play like that, i could agree with that comment on a 1/2 table but not there.

Its a whole different game, thats hw i can say that.

If you wish to learn poker i advise not to play at those levels as educational wise, as it teaches you minimal as the level of play is absurd.
  #7  
04-07-2008, 6:28 AM
shinedown.45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by I Am Willis View Post
your AJ is good there i would say 80% of the time maybe he had JT but more than likely KJ/QJ and thats why he is limping...

thats my assesment on the hand.
Quote:
Originally Posted by I Am Willis View Post
Am sorry but no, you go and play a micro cash game like that and tell me players play like that, i could agree with that comment on a 1/2 table but not there.

Its a whole different game, thats hw i can say that.

If you wish to learn poker i advise not to play at those levels as educational wise, as it teaches you minimal as the level of play is absurd.
Both are good points and as the educational part of the micros, I would have to say that the only real thing that you can learn at these micro levels would have to be patience and dicipline.
  #8  
02-08-2008, 4:51 PM
danny021
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poker is about making the right move.. and half or even more than half the time its making the right fold... yea sometimes you hate to do it but you just have to ..
  #9  
02-08-2008, 6:25 PM
HeroCall
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I doubt you beat anything on the river min raise. You should be betting more like 60% of the pot on every street instead of 30%
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