check/ raise

This is a discussion on check/ raise within the online poker forums, in the Learning Poker section; i tend to check/raise alot when i have the chance. is that a good strategy or bad. if its bad please give me an idea ...
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  #1
21st June 2009, 6:05 AM
herky35
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: holdem
check/ raise

i tend to check/raise alot when i have the chance. is that a good strategy or bad. if its bad please give me an idea on good time to do it. i do it alot cause if i have a decent hand it seems no matter what i bet if im first it scares people away so if i check i wait to see if someone else would make the bet then either i call depending on what im holding or i reraise
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  #2
21st June 2009, 6:44 AM
PattyR
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: hold em
you want to check raise if you have the ABSOLUTE NUTZ and you know your opponent hit some part of his hand.

you want to check raise if you KNOW your opponent will do the betting for you.....other than that you really should always be betting that way your getting paid off
  #3
28th June 2009, 3:01 AM
IhateRiver
 
Plays at: DoylesRoom
Game: holdem
hi

the better check to see if your opponent has something is that you bet, or reraise, that way you will know for sure if he has something, or he was just chasing something or just simply bluffing
good luck
  #4
2nd July 2009, 10:16 PM
crow27
 
Plays at: pokerstars
Game: NL
I would say that if you do it too much, you're asking for trouble. For instance, if I know you like to check-raise with something like top pair/and even a decent kicker, I'll go ahead and bet any hand that would beat what I think you have at that point in the hopes that you'll check raise me. Then you'd be toast.
Also, if I notice you c/r alot, I can just check behind you if I'm on some kind of draw. You don't ever want to give someone a free card unless like Patty said, you have the nuts and CAN'T be outdrawn.
  #5
2nd July 2009, 10:44 PM
KoRnholio
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: PLO
re: check/ raise poker

Check-raising is a good play in some spots to mix things up, but it depends a lot on your opponents. Most players call too much, so you should just bet your hands yourself. Checking and possibly giving them free cards to hit that gutshot straight can often end badly.
  #6
2nd July 2009, 11:59 PM
JulieK
 
Nobody actually said "position", but that's important. Both absolute and relative position. In early position, you are more likely to get somebody to bet after you check. In late position, it's better to bet out, because people may think you are just betting your position without cards.

Perhaps more important is relative position, meaning where are in relation to the person who bet. If you are early behind the bettor, you may make more money simply calling, and hoping others behind you call. If you're late behind the bettor, then a raise makes more sense.
  #7
3rd July 2009, 4:38 PM
mdpk
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: NLHE
I rarely check raise. Can be usefull to exploit some obvious leaks, like a maniac who bet pot on every street with weak hands, or chaser always trying to make a massive bluff on the river when he misses. At any rate, you need a strong hand AND a strong read to make it worth it.

If I'm in early position from the initial bettor, I prefer to either lead or check/call and lead the turn rather than check/raise.
  #8
4th July 2009, 2:38 PM
ImolAyrton
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: PLO
It depens on the player.. If it is a very loos player that's bluffs a lot, than you should not checkraise him.. You should wait for about 10-15 sec. than call.. check turn.. Because you check-call and think so long those kind of players think they can put you of a hand so most of the time they will fire again..


Against very tight players you should watch out, if you have the nuts, just check-raise him, most of the time they won't fold anymore but rerais all in
  #9
9th July 2009, 8:18 PM
Razor_King
 
Plays at: Ultimatebet
Game: Holdem
Check raise is a very powerful move to make however you need to make sure that a) your hand is powerful enough incase they check along with you and b) the type of player they are. I tried check raising a donkey once (big error). I like to play stinger bets at the end most of the time to completely shock them out and make it look like a bluff e.g. all in
  #10
9th July 2009, 10:22 PM
WarEagle1266
 
Plays at: Bodog
Game: NLHE, PLO
re: check/ raise poker

Check-raising is one of the most powerful tools at your disposal when OOP. However, it should be used more against aggressive opponents. One benefit of check-raising is that when you check OOP on a draw, opponents may not think your check signifies weakness, so you may get so see more free card if you do it enough. But too much, and it will start to work against you. You shouldn't be afraid to bet out OOP either.
  #11
10th July 2009, 2:41 PM
kingkowboys
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
If you are check raising instead of betting with a strong hand, your not helping yourself. An observant player will begin to check behind you, or if they think you are bluffing or have a better hand than the one that they think you have your screwed. It sounds like you use this play often, which can potential allow players to see free cards because they will see what you are trying to do every time you check. You said players are usually folding to your initial bets, this means you have a tight table image and people think you have the best hand when you bet right out. Use this as a way to bluff, especially from late position. If you are at a table where players are always folding to these bets, you might be in the one situation where it would be smart to show a bluff. I highly discourage this at all costs, but this situation could really benefit your scenario.
 

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