| This is a discussion on calling donk bets on the flop within the online poker forums, in the Learning Poker section; what types of boards do we like to float in position on missed flops when we're the intial raiser? or better what's the texture that ... |
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| calling donk bets on the flop what types of boards do we like to float in position on missed flops when we're the intial raiser? or better what's the texture that we're looking for when you feel u can put pressure on the donk bet on later streets? i know that this all dependant on many factors...but, is there a general guideline (not rules) to playback on good boards and ones you just fold? it may be clear to you but looks like mud to me. |
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| Well, if I'm going to float someone, I'm floating the player rather than the board. It's going to be someone who cbets too much. Most of the time he's full of crap, sometimes not. How the board interacts with my hole cards does play a role. I like to float more when I have some semblance of a draw, but a very unlikely one, like a gutshot straight. I'm not playing this hand to hit the straight, but if I do well then good for me. I like to call this semi-floating, lol. If I have absolute trash or an 8+ out draw, I prefer to raise the flop cbet and try to end the hand there or at least have the initial raiser defer to me on later streets. On a more important note, if this is a situation you're finding yourself in often, then there's something much more important to work on than when to float/dump. You shouldn't be flat calling raises that often anyway. Try 3betting more, and folding marginal value hands that you might be playing. I work very much at playing extremely aggressive preflop. I want to be the one putting my opponnents in the situation you find. Do I have a hand this time? Am I just full of it like I often am? To put it bluntly, they don't know because I have a wide enough range, including some suited connectors, that any cards can really fit my hand. It would behoove you to take this aggressor role more often preflop. One last thing if you absoultely really want to float. You must know your opponnent's range. What cards is willing to raise with in his current position? If he's only raising 5% of his hands, then that's something like {TT+, AQo+} That's 5 pairs with 6 combinations for 30 combos, and 32 ways to make either AQ or AK, so there's a 48:52 chance he's playing pp v. big connected cards. If he's raising more, and you're noticing hands like QJ, KQ, KJ, in there, then obviously his range is quickly skewed toward big cards as each combination of those has 16 ways to be made versus just 6 for a pocket pair. Use this information to gain insight as to what his general preflop holding looks like. If the flop comes Q68, well that's very likely to have missed his hand. If this is a habitual cbetter, then maybe this is a good time to try and take one away from him. Paired boards: Always good spots, as the possibilities of connecting to that board are much lower than average. Only five cards in the deck hit a paired board. The raiser knows this, which makes him more likely to be cbet bluffing at you, but if you know it to, then turn the tables on him. Monotone boards: Scary to lots of players. Okay, so I'm gonna cut it loose there, because really I don't think floating should even be in most players arsenal. At lower levels it's usually spew from a combination of not doing it properly, and doing it against players that you simply can't float. My personal recommendation is what I said earlier. Be the raiser more often preflop, and if you're going to float, semi-float! |
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