Building my first BR on Sng and CG

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  #1
2nd August 2009, 4:13 PM
maolitas
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: holdem
Building my first BR on Sng and CG

Hi,
Finally I would like to start playing raked games, as playing freerolls is cool, but I'd like to learn more things playing cash, and why not win a few bucks

So, I'd like to choose my games properly, in order not to get cracked, and also choose the rooms properly.

Let's talk about the games first. I don't think I've got the BR to start playing MTT now, so I'd like to play CG and SnG in a first time.
I played yesterday a $1 SnG with 10 players on Party Poker.
Payouts were 50%, 30%, 20%
I finished 2 and won $2.40.
I didn't understand first and when received the Hand History, could see that the fee was $0.2 by player, so there were obviously a 20% fee, which is huge...

So, I'm wondering if I should keep playing these kinds of SnG, because it was a turbo one, and the factor luck has a great importance too, and maybe I'm gonna lose my buck more often than winning a small amount.
So, should I play "Double or nothing" SnG instead ?
Any advices on beginner's SnG are welcome

Then, I'd like to play CG too. I'm gonna play NL2 to start, because I have not the proper BR to play higher level. I'm gonna try 6max and FR in order to see which suits me best.

Here comes another question to me: the Room choice, as I think it's a key factor too.
I like to play in well known rooms like FTP, PS... but maybe in such sites I will find the best players.
Should I play in smaller sites and it would be easier to win money on CG ?

Also, before starting to play CG, I'd like to upgrade my regular accounts in order to get rakeback. And obviously, if by chance it'll happen, it will takes time...

Thanks
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  #2
2nd August 2009, 5:44 PM
BelgoSuisse
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Holdem
Wow, $0.8+0.2 is pretty outrageous. That's actually 25% rake.

For super micro SnGs, I would strongly recommend Everest since they have a much lower rake for them (10%) and it starts at $0.1+0.01 which is a really cheap way to learn the game.
  #3
2nd August 2009, 6:03 PM
Ernster86
 
Online Poker at: Poker Stars
Game: Razz
Your better off depositing more and playing micro cash games. SNG's and DoN are just too hard and unpredictable especially if you're not an experienced player.

Id suggest playing cash games with the occasional tournament/MTT SNG.

But obviously just see what game suits you best.
  #4
2nd August 2009, 6:42 PM
suit2please
 
Poker at: PS + FTP
Game: NLHE
I personally like the DoNs when starting with a small BR. Yesterday my PokerStars BR was $9, played 3 of their $1.15 DoNs and now Im up to around $11.50 and it didn't take much time. But, I have been playing DoNs for a while on PO and the ones their are always turbo so I am used to these types of games.

At Players Only (PO) I started with like $2, won a regular $1 SnG then played DoNs all the way to $50, which didnt take long, so I may be bias since I have done well in these.

Remember in a DoN that the point is not to collect every last chip from every player, but to knock out 5 players. This should change the way you play.
  #5
3rd August 2009, 7:37 AM
RogueRivered
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: NL Hold'em
re: Building my first BR on Sng and CG poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by maolitas

Then, I'd like to play CG too. I'm gonna play NL2 to start, because I have not the proper BR to play higher level. I'm gonna try 6max and FR in order to see which suits me best.

Here comes another question to me: the Room choice, as I think it's a key factor too.
I like to play in well known rooms like FTP, PS... but maybe in such sites I will find the best players.
Should I play in smaller sites and it would be easier to win money on CG ?

Also, before starting to play CG, I'd like to upgrade my regular accounts in order to get rakeback. And obviously, if by chance it'll happen, it will takes time...

Thanks
I started at Stars at .01/.02 nl in February. Don't worry, you'll have plenty of poor opponents there. I think the shear number of games is an advantage over smaller sites where you'll run into the same people more often. Full Tilt also has a lot of micro cash games, but I don't like these as well for some reason for multi-tabling -- probably because they move a little bit faster and I like to use Table Ninja, which is for Stars. No need to try to get rakeback on Stars, either. I've tried on Full Tilt, but unlike some people, I still haven't had any success (but I'm on the fabled "list").
  #6
3rd August 2009, 7:48 AM
damon789
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
crunchin' the numbers

Quote:
Originally Posted by BelgoSuisse
Wow, $0.8+0.2 is pretty outrageous. That's actually 25% rake.

For super micro SnGs, I would strongly recommend Everest since they have a much lower rake for them (10%) and it starts at $0.1+0.01 which is a really cheap way to learn the game.
I think the OP is correct a 20c Vig in a $1 stngo would be 20% not 25%
  #7
3rd August 2009, 7:56 AM
damon789
 
Online Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
BRM

Hey Maolitis, a little more info would have given you better, more detailed

feedback. What bankroll are you working with? Are you planning on Multitabling?

Personally I think a 20% is almost unbeatable, and I wouldn't waste too much

time trying to beat those games. If they are the highest St ngos your bankroll

allow, I think learning the ropes at the Micro tables would be a better option, as

the Rake wont hurt you as much there.And a good ringame strategy will win you

more $$$ on Av than stngos IMO. GL and give em hell.
  #8
3rd August 2009, 11:25 PM
maolitas
 
Poker at: PokerStars
Game: holdem
many thanks for all your answers, really appreciate that, and good advices I'll follow

I'm gonna play both CG and SnG, because I think both games can bring me some abilities.
In fact, I play quite few by these times, and it was a long time ago since I did not go far in a freeroll.
By playing the SnG last time, the fast growing of blinds made me play cards that I would never play in normal time.
So I think both CG and SnG will bring me some abilities, at least I hope so

I'll probably check these DoN SnG, to see if I double often
If I can increase a bit my BR like that, it's great.

Before playing seriously CG, I want to have the proper tool, which will be HEM, after testing both PT3 and HEM.
But I won't be able to get it for free, as I already have accounts everywhere
But the licence is a lifetime one, and I think the $80 is not so expensive for a lifetime tool. I just hope they won't stop to develop the software!!

So, when I'll have HEM, I'll start playing CG. I'll probably buy it next month.
Until then, I'm gonna stick on SnG.

Regarding my BR, in fact, I must have something like $150 I would say. The problem is that these are only $ won on freerolls, on multiple rooms. So, I must gather them, by depositing on each room, playing a bit, and withdraw everything. It'll take some time to gather everything.
When it'll be done, I'll probably add something like 150 or 200 other bucks, in order to deposit on a couple of rooms.
Then, I hope I'll be able to make more $ with them

Thanks again for your advices
  #9
4th August 2009, 5:42 AM
RA2000
 
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: holdem
First of all you should know which game you like most.
MTTīs, cash game or SNGīs.
Then play that game at that pokersite that offers the best win ratio!
  #10
8th August 2009, 10:39 AM
andosalado
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: holdem
re: Building my first BR on Sng and CG poker

In my experience sitngos are a great way of boosting your bankroll, but you should not play those $1,20 sits, at least go to the $2.25 that are a little more fair.

I started with $50 dolars on Full Tilt and got up to $300 playing $2.25 sitngos.
 

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