Badugi Probabilities

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  #1
14th October 2009, 10:49 PM
mstram
 
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Game: Omaha
Badugi Probabilities

Is this correct ?

Probability of being dealt any badugi (R1a R2b R3c R4d)

4/52 * 3/51 * 2/50 * 1/49

If that is correct, how would you calculate the probability for a particular hand? E.g. Aa 2b 3c 4d
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  #2
14th October 2009, 10:59 PM
D'wilius
 
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Game: 8-game
Odds of being dealt a nut badugi would be ((4 *4)/52) x ((3*3)/51) x ((2*2)/50) x (1/49). Oh, I guess you mean any badugi, all the way up to K? That would be ((12*3)/51) x ((11*2)/50) x (10/50)

...your numbers are the odds of an exact hand, suit matching the value.

Last edited by D'wilius : 14th October 2009 at 11:14 PM.
  #3
15th October 2009, 1:38 AM
Exit141RTe1
 
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Game: Holdem
I tried this game a month or so ago. What a headache I had when the game was over.

I will try it again but I have some reading to do and work out the odds listed above so I understand it.
  #4
15th October 2009, 9:30 PM
mstram
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Omaha
Dealt Badugi Probability Formula

On the http://wiki.lowballgurus.com/article..._Probabilities page

We can calculate the number of badugis with high card N as ((N-1) choose 3) * 4!
(That is, we must choose 1 card of rank N, 3 different ranks from the
remaining N-1 ranks, and they may have any assignment of four different suits.)


As an almost "math illiterate", that's a pretty slick forumula !

I can understand the (N-1) choose 3), especially since it is "spelled out" in english , but I don't get the 4 factorial for the suits.

Can anyone explain why / how the 4 factorial relates to the suits ?

Pretend you are talking to a 6 year old
  #5
16th October 2009, 1:32 AM
only_bridge
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: bridge
The 4! comes from the 4 suits, its correct.
The first card can be chosen from 4 suits, the 2:nd from 3 suits, the 3:rd from 2, and the last from just one suit.
The multiply theroem then gives us 4x3x2x1=4!
The formula calculates the # of badugi hands exactly n high.
If you want to calculate the total # of badugi hands that are n high or better, then the formula would be:
(n choose 4)4!

Last edited by only_bridge : 16th October 2009 at 1:39 AM.
  #6
18th October 2009, 5:35 AM
mstram
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Omaha
re: Badugi Probabilities poker

If drawing 2 cards to an 8 or bettter, starting with two cards <=8.

So draw 1:

12 outs from remaining 48 cards = 33 %

Draw 2 : 10 outs from 46 cards = 27%

Draw 3: 8 outs from 44 cards = 22%

How do you calculate the total percentage for all three draws combined?

I.e Calculate the odds of hitting on three draws?

You can't just add those percentages can you ? ... giving 82% of hitting ?

Mike
  #7
19th October 2009, 6:16 AM
only_bridge
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: bridge
Quote:
Originally Posted by mstram
If drawing 2 cards to an 8 or bettter, starting with two cards <=8.

So draw 1:

12 outs from remaining 48 cards = 33 %

Draw 2 : 10 outs from 46 cards = 27%

Draw 3: 8 outs from 44 cards = 22%

How do you calculate the total percentage for all three draws combined?

I.e Calculate the odds of hitting on three draws?

You can't just add those percentages can you ? ... giving 82% of hitting ?

Mike
I dont really understand what you want to calculate, but lets say you have 3 cards, 8 high, and you are drawing for an 8 high badugi.
Then the chance of hitting would be:
5/48+33/48*5/47+33/48*32/48*5/46
 



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