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  Poker - Another hand but I fold this one..Good fold?
 
  #1  
11-06-2008, 3:44 AM
Shakes
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Another hand but I fold this one..Good fold?

I would later get busted with AK vs QJ with QJ getting 2 pair and me foolishly trying to get the straight. But I wanted everyones analysis on this hand on whether it was A) a good fold, and B) what could be a range of hands to put him on (which is a major weakness of mine.) First the hand:

Full Tilt Poker Game #6776277168: RoundersRadio.com (50734131), Table 9 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:43:01 ET - 2008/06/10
Seat 1: Pok3rBall (1,090)
Seat 2: Safty4win (1,115)
Seat 3: itsoveryouknow (5,960)
Seat 4: MERLIN333 (3,715)
Seat 5: sydneyslim (1,495)
Seat 6: jonhg (1,350), is sitting out
Seat 7: mike2506 (7,075)
Seat 8: EHLShakes (2,370)
Seat 9: Myles Joseph (2,615)
jonhg posts the small blind of 40
mike2506 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to EHLShakes [Ad Jd]
EHLShakes has 15 seconds left to act
EHLShakes raises to 240
Myles Joseph folds
Pok3rBall folds
Safty4win folds
itsoveryouknow raises to 560
MERLIN333 folds
sydneyslim folds
jonhg folds
mike2506 folds
jonhg has returned
EHLShakes calls 320
*** FLOP *** [6s 3s 3h]
EHLShakes checks
itsoveryouknow bets 1,200
EHLShakes has 15 seconds left to act
EHLShakes folds
Uncalled bet of 1,200 returned to itsoveryouknow
itsoveryouknow mucks
itsoveryouknow wins the pot (1,240)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,240 | Rake 0
Board: [6s 3s 3h]
Seat 1: Pok3rBall didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Safty4win didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: itsoveryouknow collected (1,240), mucked
Seat 4: MERLIN333 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: sydneyslim (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: jonhg (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: mike2506 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: EHLShakes folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Myles Joseph didn't bet (folded)


I personally was thinking pocket pair to be honest (99-qq). But like before this is a freeroll. So any ideas on if I played it correctly or any subtle changes you would have made? Any info would be appreciated. My reason for folding btw was because of the PF bet.
 

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  #2  
11-06-2008, 3:50 AM
widowmaker89
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I cant see what you are beating here. Again I dont play free rolls so maybe I shouldnt even comment but in a non freeroll calling the reraise is a questionable play, you are really dominated by a 3 betting range in a buy in.
  #3  
11-06-2008, 3:50 AM
D'wilius
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I haven't read yet but this should be in hand analysis

Last edited by D'wilius : 11-06-2008 at 3:56 AM.
  #4  
11-06-2008, 4:30 AM
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The ones at this forum that analyze hands and do it well seem to want to see HH's posted like this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakes View Post

Full Tilt Poker Game #6776277168: RoundersRadio.com (50734131), Table 9 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:43:01 ET - 2008/06/10
Seat 1: Pok3rBall (1,090)
Seat 2: Safty4win (1,115)
Seat 3: itsoveryouknow (5,960)
Seat 4: MERLIN333 (3,715)
Seat 5: sydneyslim (1,495)
Seat 6: jonhg (1,350), is sitting out
Seat 7: mike2506 (7,075)
Seat 8: EHLShakes (2,370)
Seat 9: Myles Joseph (2,615)
jonhg posts the small blind of 40
mike2506 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to EHLShakes [Ad Jd]
EHLShakes has 15 seconds left to act
EHLShakes raises to 240
Myles Joseph folds
Pok3rBall folds
Safty4win folds
itsoveryouknow raises to 560
MERLIN333 folds
sydneyslim folds
jonhg folds
mike2506 folds
jonhg has returned
EHLShakes calls 320
*** FLOP *** [6s 3s 3h]
EHLShakes checks
itsoveryouknow bets 1,200
EHLShakes has 15 seconds left to act
EHLShakes ?????
I guess it helps for the analyzation to be unbiased to results.

Are you playing any micro stakes, like .10c mtt?
  #5  
15-06-2008, 4:32 AM
FryGuy14
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Whether this is a freeroll or not, I feel you made the right decision based on the post-flop bet in conjunction with the raise over the top pre-flop. You had AJd, but he could have had AA, AK, AQ, and at a minimum KK. So this to me seems like the right play based on the information he was giving you. Tough laydown but a good one.
  #6  
15-06-2008, 5:58 AM
Shakes
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Well its a start I guess
  #7  
15-06-2008, 9:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakes View Post
I would later get busted with AK vs QJ with QJ getting 2 pair and me foolishly trying to get the straight. But I wanted everyones analysis on this hand on whether it was A) a good fold, and B) what could be a range of hands to put him on (which is a major weakness of mine.) First the hand:

Full Tilt Poker Game #6776277168: RoundersRadio.com (50734131), Table 9 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:43:01 ET - 2008/06/10
Seat 1: Pok3rBall (1,090)
Seat 2: Safty4win (1,115)
Seat 3: itsoveryouknow (5,960)
Seat 4: MERLIN333 (3,715)
Seat 5: sydneyslim (1,495)
Seat 6: jonhg (1,350), is sitting out
Seat 7: mike2506 (7,075)
Seat 8: EHLShakes (2,370)
Seat 9: Myles Joseph (2,615)
jonhg posts the small blind of 40
mike2506 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to EHLShakes [Ad Jd]
EHLShakes has 15 seconds left to act
EHLShakes raises to 240 Fold here. AJ is a decent, but not great hand. If you were on the button and the pot hasn't been opened then by all means raise with it, but raising with it UTG is not a good idea. If you get reraised you pretty much have to throw it away after making a large investment already. If you get called you'll probably be playing the pot out of the position.
Myles Joseph folds
Pok3rBall folds
Safty4win folds
itsoveryouknow raises to 560
MERLIN333 folds
sydneyslim folds
jonhg folds
mike2506 folds
jonhg has returned
EHLShakes calls 320 Given the pot odds this is probably an ok call, but you need to be very careful on the flop.
*** FLOP *** [6s 3s 3h]
EHLShakes checks Fine, get away if he bets.
itsoveryouknow bets 1,200
EHLShakes has 15 seconds left to act
EHLShakes folds Good
Uncalled bet of 1,200 returned to itsoveryouknow
itsoveryouknow mucks
itsoveryouknow wins the pot (1,240)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,240 | Rake 0
Board: [6s 3s 3h]
Seat 1: Pok3rBall didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Safty4win didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: itsoveryouknow collected (1,240), mucked
Seat 4: MERLIN333 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: sydneyslim (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: jonhg (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: mike2506 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: EHLShakes folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Myles Joseph didn't bet (folded)

He could have a large range of hands here. But given you raised UTG it should be quite a small range (though this is a freeroll?). Against a solid opponent expect to be seeing AQs+/AKo/JJ+. Whatever it was, it probably had you beat.
  #8  
16-06-2008, 11:40 PM
Shakes
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Thanks CF I play mostly freerolls and the occasional micro sng because I am not good enough (at least I dont fell I am) to really build a bankroll. I figured while suited it was ok to do that, I definetly would have thrown it away if it was unsuited.
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