Always Check your Hand vs Board

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  #1
28th October 2009, 9:17 PM
itlegacy
 
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Game: holdem
Always Check your Hand vs Board

Saw Ivy lay down cards, when he had a Flush. His opponent checked after the River. It would have cost him nothing to flip over the cards and realize he'd won the hand.

We always recommend patience to our fellow members. It pays to slow down and check your true status before mucking your cards. In this case, it cost Phil over a million in chips.
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  #2
28th October 2009, 9:55 PM
sharkyo01
 
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Game: Hold em
We are all human ... and we all make mistakes at the best of times.

And poor old Phil must had a little moment!
  #3
28th October 2009, 10:20 PM
smallteene
 
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Game: holdem
It was crazy when I saw that too. Rookie mistake I guess?

If others want to know, here is the hand:
The hand:
IVY has pocket 8, raises to 320K (pot is 620K)
SMITH has Ac 9, raises to 1 million (pot is 1.5 million), IVY asks how much SMITH has left, calls making pot 2.1 mil)
FLOP: 5s, Qh, 10s
SMITH checks,IVY checks
TURN Qs
SMITH checks,IVY checks
RIVER As
SMITH checks, IVY checks behind
5s, Qh, 10s, Qs, As
SMITH says "got an Ace", shows his hand...then IVY mucks the 2.1 million pot.

*Ivy only looks at his hand once at the beginning when he sees his pocket eights.
*When SMITH shows his hand, IVY leans over to look and mucks.
*Probably didn't realize he had a spade in the first place, probably thought it was a club? or he maybe realized it as he mucked it....who knows?
  #4
28th October 2009, 10:31 PM
PattyR
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: hold em
already got another thread open about this..but as you stated he only looked at his hand in the beginning...obviously he had no idea he had a spade...or maybe figured 8 of spades was no good...i dunno..

but i dont understand why you wouldn even flip it over to show...i mean..just mucking it doesn make much sense
  #5
28th October 2009, 11:39 PM
Velutha
 
Plays at: Swank Poker
Game: Badugi
re: Always Check your Hand vs Board poker

=> Link to other thread for consolidation purposes
  #6
29th October 2009, 12:09 AM
cjatud2012
 
Plays at: Tilt, Stars
Game: NLHE
Quote:
Originally Posted by smallteene
It was crazy when I saw that too. Rookie mistake I guess?

If others want to know, here is the hand:
The hand:
IVY has pocket 8, raises to 320K (pot is 620K)
SMITH has Ac 9, raises to 1 million (pot is 1.5 million), IVY asks how much SMITH has left, calls making pot 2.1 mil)
FLOP: 5s, Qh, 10s
SMITH checks,IVY checks
TURN Qs
SMITH checks,IVY checks
RIVER As
SMITH checks, IVY checks behind
5s, Qh, 10s, Qs, As
SMITH says "got an Ace", shows his hand...then IVY mucks the 2.1 million pot.

*Ivy only looks at his hand once at the beginning when he sees his pocket eights.
*When SMITH shows his hand, IVY leans over to look and mucks.
*Probably didn't realize he had a spade in the first place, probably thought it was a club? or he maybe realized it as he mucked it....who knows?
Rookie mistake? Lol, don't think he can be considered a rookie, but we catch your drift.
  #7
29th October 2009, 3:51 AM
bullishwwd
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem, NL
AGREE...All Pros have their moments

This just proves that Phil gets tired, is human, and drifts like all of us. Seems that most all of them have their moments of proving they are human...maybe was a virus in the hard drive or a Trojan horse in the software.

Did not Cris Moneymaker also do about the same thing during the WSOP a few years back....like he was still in the hand, but thought that he had folded the hand, but had not?

Ivey is still an excellent player and usually is strong point is "FOCUS". Hope he wins the WSOP next month.

Wally
  #8
29th October 2009, 7:05 PM
Velutha
 
Plays at: Swank Poker
Game: Badugi
Quote:
Originally Posted by bullishwwd
maybe was a virus in the hard drive or a Trojan horse in the software.
Hold on....so is Ivey actually a brick and mortar bot? Otherwise I don't see what you did there...
  #9
29th October 2009, 7:25 PM
PNJs_dad
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem #1
Yeah, I couldn't believe it when I saw it either. I bet he was kicking himself thought when he saw it on TV. LOL
  #10
29th October 2009, 7:43 PM
brett987
 
Plays at: Full tilt
Game: hold em
re: Always Check your Hand vs Board poker

it just goes to show you in a pressure situation even the best of players make dumb mistakes they regret
 



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